Update: V8 Colorado Haulted till 09

[axeussevn]

According to this site: "COLORADO V8 AVAILABILITY RE-TIMED. . .Dealers and the field organization were previously advised the Colorado with V8 would be available in Q1 2008. The 5.3L V8 scheduled for interim 2008MY has been re-timed for 2009MY SORP."

Source (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57182)


And I agree with some of the posters on the site, sounds suspicious.

Planting the 5/3 in the Colorado would not be a big deal, so they are either waiting on some Consumer research, or they are planning on giving the Colorado a completely new design.


Maybe they'll rename it to the S10. ..... oh one can dream?.. one can dream......

[Hicks84s10]

AWWW What the hell I was looking forward to test driving one soon at my dealership. :angry1: ...and if they rename it the s-10 I'll hit somebody because now its a mid-size. I want a mini for an s-10

[racinmason]

what they should do is just scrap the whole colorado line, bring back the S10, maybe update it alittle bit and put some kind of OHC engine in it. :D sorry but I'm anti-Colorado all the way. they could put a jet engine in it and I still wouldn't want one. bring back the S10!!!

[Rinkrat456]

Bring back the S-truck is right. While they're at it, bring back the Jimmy and Blazer, even though I love the Trailblazer, just re-name it. (That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet?) The only way I'd buy a Colorado again is if it came with a VortecMAX aluminum 5.3L pushing 350/350 or thereabouts, still getting 20mpg or better. If a 5.3L in a Silverado can hit 20mpg I would hope for nothing less in a vehicle that weighs 1500-2000lbs less with a greater aerodynamic shape. Also, they need to bring back the 5x4.75" bolt pattern or at least start making more vehicles with 6x5" so that more rims are available. The 8.25" rear end upgrade is a nice touch, but isn't necessary for the inline 4 trucks. Bring back the 7.625" rear, keep the 8.25" as a 4x4/off-road/V8 axle and for God's sake, Z71 packages are hideous...lift that baby up 2-3 more inches and offer a ZR2 package that actually makes the truck look and perform as well as the V8 4x4 Dakota.

[20twinz]

The only way I'd buy a Colorado again is if it came with a VortecMAX aluminum 5.3L pushing 350/350 or thereabouts, still getting 20mpg or better.

Same here! I'll take one!

[Injected]

I did a bit of research a while back and the 5.3 wasn't a direct drop in on the platform. There was a bit of reconfiguring that had to take place. The fact that GM even decided to do this was based on the need for a V8 H3, so it's kind of an afterthought, but at least they are doing it.

I'm getting very stoked about GM as of late. They are making headlines left and right.

[Rob]

...I'm getting very stoked about GM as of late. They are making headlines left and right.

That's it, come to the domestic side...lol :D.

[Rinkrat456]

That's it, come to the domestic side...lol :D.
Motion carried.

[91sonomast]

Bring back the S-truck is right. While they're at it, bring back the Jimmy and Blazer, even though I love the Trailblazer, just re-name it. (That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet?) The only way I'd buy a Colorado again is if it came with a VortecMAX aluminum 5.3L pushing 350/350 or thereabouts, still getting 20mpg or better. If a 5.3L in a Silverado can hit 20mpg I would hope for nothing less in a vehicle that weighs 1500-2000lbs less with a greater aerodynamic shape. Also, they need to bring back the 5x4.75" bolt pattern or at least start making more vehicles with 6x5" so that more rims are available. The 8.25" rear end upgrade is a nice touch, but isn't necessary for the inline 4 trucks. Bring back the 7.625" rear, keep the 8.25" as a 4x4/off-road/V8 axle and for God's sake, Z71 packages are hideous...lift that baby up 2-3 more inches and offer a ZR2 package that actually makes the truck look and perform as well as the V8 4x4 Dakota.
350/350, if it doesnt come with that put a good free flowing exhaust and a dyno tune, BAM 350. if a LS1 f-body can hit 351rwhp and 365rwtq with a full exhaust system and a dyno tune, that truck should beable too, im sure it will be horribly detuned. if that doesnt do it, then a car intake should do it, or a LSx, theres a guy on s10forum that put on a FAST 90mm intake and gained 27hp at the wheels.

[Rinkrat456]

350/350, if it doesnt come with that put a good free flowing exhaust and a dyno tune, BAM 350. if a LS1 f-body can hit 351rwhp and 365rwtq with a full exhaust system and a dyno tune, that truck should beable too, im sure it will be horribly detuned. if that doesnt do it, then a car intake should do it, or a LSx, theres a guy on s10forum that put on a FAST 90mm intake and gained 27hp at the wheels.
I read that thread, he did good work with the before and after summaries and didn't change any other variable. Too many times a magazine or technical article will say they are going to change only the carburetor in a 1/4 mile vehicle and see how well the new carburetor improves the 1/4 mile time. While they're under the hood, the replace the valve covers, which leads to changing to 1.6:1 needle bearing aluminum roller tip rockers, which leads to changing to all aluminum Edelbrock E-tec 200 heads with 2.02/1.60 valves and hardened pushrods, which leads to a custom grind CompCAMS shaft that raises lift and duration a lot...now you've got to change out to BeeHive springs and retainers, which leads to a different Torquer intake manifold now to match the cam characteristics, and now because the engine screams to 7 grand on the tachometer they need upgrade to a forged billet 3.75" stroker crank and matching forged H-beam connecting rods with flat top pistons and 10:1 compression, and then......get my point?

I got a little carried away but I like how he presented the information.

[Injected]

Motion carried.
The only (non-specialty) domestic car that even remotely interests me is the Corvette. It's relatively light, has lots of power and a great chassis, and I really think they are beautiful. If I were to get a base 'Vette, it would still run me more than money than I'm looking to spend (just bought a house, going back for my MBA in about 1.5 years). The auto industry looks to be changing drastically, and likely this is the last generation of familiar ("simple" drive trains) sports coupes.

Right now sucks to be a sports car guy. It's great if you are an average consumer or can afford a super car, but there is little in the way of true sports cars. I maintain that there are far more interesting things on the horizon that warrant holding out in the sub-40K market.

Besides the 'Vette, GM will still get a glance from me for the Camaro. Hopefully GM realizes the mistakes of the Solstice and Sky and are using this time that they didn't have with the drop-top twins to work out the concept kinks. The car will still likely be too big for me.

The 2009(?) Mustang is just a face lift. I hope for their sake that they will update the interior. I doubt they will give it a real rear suspension. I wouldn't ever buy one, save for the last gen Cobra.

Dodge is in the toilet right now.

Going across the water:

Something to note, Toyota doesn't even have a sports car offering.

Honda's FF chassis is very good, but I don't think FFs will ever be held high in my mind. I don't like roadsters.

The Hyundai Genisis platform looks very promising (though a bit heavy). The four cylinder turbo option has me excited because it will likely be based on the shared engine platform that Mitsubishi and Dodge use (Evo and SRT-4 respectively). Also, though it's not likely to be offered initially, their new 4.6L V8 found in the Genisis luxury sedan will be putting out 368 hp and 324 lb-ft of torque. Sounds like an interesting project.

The next generation Z from Nissan (I know I've mentioned it before) is reportedly lighter and more powerful. That makes the currently most appealing midrange sports car on the market even better.

Mitsubishi and Subaru are fighting it out, but unfortunately don't understand what a sports car is supposed to look like and end up putting at least two too many doors. I guess they try and make up for it by turning two more wheels. It also appears that Mitsubishi's gone softer than Subie as of late.

The BMW 335i coupe is 1) overly luxury, 2) way to heavy, 3) overpriced (my apologies to those who believe the BMW premium added to the price is justified).

Audi TT coupe is a dressed up Golf R32. Well, I may need to look further into this one, but they are relatively heavy.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[Rinkrat456]

Injected have you read anything about the rear suspension the new Camaro is supposed to have? Will they still offer a mono tube 4-link rear suspension like the Mustang and older Camaro's or do you think IRS is in the works?

[Injected]

Injected have you read anything about the rear suspension the new Camaro is supposed to have? Will they still offer a mono tube 4-link rear suspension like the Mustang and older Camaro's or do you think IRS is in the works?
The people who regularly take spy shots are dumb and incapable of getting that shot (under chassis). I would hope beyond all hope that an independent rear suspension is a no-brainer for a sports car or even a sporty car.

I'll never understand Detroit's love affair with automatic transmissions and "live axles". Come on guys, you know they are wrong, why do you keep going back to them?

[Telemarshallman]

Aww, come on now ... would it really be a Camaro if it had IRS? Thats kinda like a Rear Engine'd Vette or a front wheel drive Charger. Hell, Lets take the Vette ( I know we're talking about the colorado/camaros) and Mid mount the engine, make it a Turbo inline 4.2 6cyl, AWD and top it off with a 7 speed Manumatic trans. After all that is it still a Corvette? No its a Porsche 911 with a MB trans.

ah, IRS would be fine, I'm just talking.

[Rinkrat456]

GM is talking about a mid engine Vette after the ZR1.