57 project truck (56K Warning!)

[97v8s10]

Here are some pictures of how the truck sits/looks now.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1918.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1916.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1919.jpg

[97v8s10]

Front suspension shot.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1920.jpg

The seats and console. Both are going. I guess there out of an older Nova. So I'm told.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1921.jpg

Stainless bed cover. Not bolted down at all. Not sure if I'm keeping it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1922.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here are some bed shots. I'll need a bigger fuel cell. I like how the bed is done except where the notch cover meets the tubs.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1923.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1924.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1925.jpg

[steve]

That truck looks very solid. What are your plans for it? What is the first thing you are going to do?

[97v8s10]

Bodywork. lol I'll tear it down and the first mod I will do is shave the drip rail. There is a lot of body filler on this truck so I will strip it all down and go from there. I won't be running bumpers on this truck either. The mounts will be removed and shaved. I could type forever but I'll save some for later.

[shooter]

Thats awsome man, I'm geeked for ya. That truck is asking for a chop. :D

[97v8s10]

That truck is asking for a chop. :D
Yes it is but no. Since I have a brand new windshield for it I won't.

[97v8s10]

Ok, it's later......suicide doors!

[Justin_614]

Cant wait to see it at ITB...

[1983BOWTIEBEATER]

ahh,I love those old ford pickups:D

Are you sure it is a 460 and not just a bored over 360 or 390 because that looks like a 360 or 390 (both small big blocks) I love that jet style shifter:) Have you always wanted one of those? It looks lie you got a great deal. good luck with her

[1983BOWTIEBEATER]

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/1983bowtiebeater/kodakmoments002.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/1983bowtiebeater/TRUCK748.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/1983bowtiebeater/TRUCK747.jpg

[brakemaster_43]

now that is what i call a beautiful truck. that thing has tons of potential. i cant wait til you start this project cause ill definatly be following this thread. good luck beck. :thumbsup:

[97v8s10]

I was told it ws a 460. Haven't looked for casting numbers yet to find out. I plan on swapping it out anyway for something fuel injected!

[Ryan]

Thats one sweet truck. :D

[mreed]

The front has coils? I bet it was fun getting it on & off the trailer!

[97v8s10]

Not really all that fun. lol Ripped the pinch weld off the driverside unloading it.

[Rob]

...Are you sure it is a 460 and not just a bored over 360 or 390 because that looks like a 360 or 390 (both small big blocks)...

Ford did make a 460 BB, but I don't think they are the best from what I've heard.

[xtc_customs]

just a lil off topic here but

56k warning ?

who the heck still has 56k other than those very very very few that live outside of the service areas ?

[mreed]

My Verizon "air card" acts like 56k. It sucks.

[67Truckin]

I've still got 56k out here in the country! :D LOL
There isn't even any cable, sewer or gas out here but I do have city water.

[Rob]

I've still got 56k out here in the country! :D LOL...

I was in the same boat when I lived with my parents. Now that I have bought a house and moved into town, I have cable.

[daryl]

Dude, that truck will be cooler than your s10 when done. I love the old pickups! If you stick around to keep us posted that would be awesome but if not be sure to post something when its done :P.

[97v8s10]

Figured out the fuel pump is bad. Poured a little gas in the carb and it fired right up. So I plan on a new MSD fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, and fuel cell. With the fuel cell I probaly need to have one custom made to fit in the bed correctly.

[axcel409]

Dude, that truck will be cooler than your s10 when done. I love the old pickups! .

check out my truck i have sum pics posted on here

[Justin_614]

hey Beck... Your truck is in the new Burnout Game....

[97v8s10]

hey Beck... Your truck is in the new Burnout Game....
Screen shot? I'm to broke to buy the game right now.

[97v8s10]

Got the front clip and the bed off today in the freezing cold! Definatly gonna have to redo the rear suspension.

Couple of crappy cell phone pics.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0125081843.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0125081844.jpg

If you look real close in the picture of the rear coils you'll see the driverside coil has moved half way off the axle mount.

[steve]

You wanted a project... Well you certainly got yourself one. But it does look like a fun one though.

[mreed]

Ahhh...I was wondering why the side to side tub was so damn big. When you bag it you'll be able to cut that down quite a bit making it much easier to fit in a fuel cell. The coil has probably been cut...that's probably why it's slipping out. No biggie though, if you decide to keep coils all you'll hafta do is take the coils out & weld a piece of 2 1/2" tube about 2 or 3" tall to the perch and put the coils back in. That'll keep them in place.

[97v8s10]

I hope to get better pictures of it today. No coils for me. It has to have airride! The frame is narrowed in the rear so I could fit some wide ass rims and tres in the back if I wanted to.

[mreed]

Is the rear end narrowed?

[97v8s10]

I don't think so. It doesn't look narrowed. I will get better pics tomorrow.

[97v8s10]

Here is a better picture of the rear.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1926.jpg

Here is a shot of one of the spring axle mounts and one of the front with the front clip off of it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1927.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1929.jpg

[97v8s10]

Oh yeah... The fuel pump works. The fuel line was kinked and the ground wire wasn't hooked up. lol

[97v8s10]

Also the rearend measures a little over 55" from backing plate to backing plate.

[steve]

Is that custom front end/frame?

[97v8s10]

Is that custom front end/frame?
Yes. I can't wait to start on the bodywork. I think this truck will look awesome with no bumpers.

[steve]

I think this truck will look awesome with no bumpers.

Agreed!

[97v8s10]

Here is a little progress. I started shaving the drip rail on the passanger side today.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1930.jpg

This is why drip rails suck

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1931.jpg

If you can't see it. Where the drip rail was it full of holes.

[97v8s10]

Now this pics is how not to shave an antenna hole.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1932.jpg

It's actually braised. The metal wasn't cut to fill the hole. It was a long strip under the hole.

This is how I fixed it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1933.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG1934.jpg

Should only take a minimal amount of body filler to smooth out. I was able to recreate the curve very well in my book.

[brakemaster_43]

doing a great job man. what do you plan on doing with the motor, build it or leave it stock? i wish i could get my hands on an old truck like that.

[97v8s10]

I plan to leave the motor the way it is for now. Maybe add some flowmaster to is since it has glasspacks :(

[brakemaster_43]

i cant stand the sound of glass packs. good choice going with flowmaster :thumbsup:

[97v8s10]

Got the drip rail completely shaved off just to find alot of rust to repair. :D

[mreed]

Aww man...that sucks! Atleast you're finding it now though.

[steve]

Got the drip rail completely shaved off just to find alot of rust to repair. :D

That’s the name of the game when dealing with old trucks unless you live out in the south west. Boy I wish CT's climate was that car friendly.

[97v8s10]

After thinking about it alot, I will be doing a full backhalf. This truck will lay on 22's!I need to decide what size of tire I can run so I can get.

I've been searching around trying to cross refference tires ans have come up with this.

245/35/22 is roughly 28.75 overall diameter

235/75/15 is roughly 28.88 overall diameter

Does anyone think the 22's will fit under the truck with that tire size? I really need to find some used 235/75/15's to see if I can get them to fit. Anybody got any?

[Rinkrat456]

I really need to find some used 235/75/15's to see if I can get them to fit. Anybody got any?Every day! Usually they come off S10's and Blazer's too, lol. How bald are you looking for?

22's on a '57 Ford truck. :frustrate You will be bringing on the wrath of hell from many who see the '57 as something worth restoring to mint condition.

[97v8s10]

Every day! Usually they come off S10's and Blazer's too, lol. How bald are you looking for?

22's on a '57 Ford truck. :frustrate You will be bringing on the wrath of hell from many who see the '57 as something worth restoring to mint condition.
You know me lol! I don't do stock.

Are you asking me how bad I need the tires?

[brakemaster_43]

i think 22" rims would look awesome on that truck. with the back half, how wide of a rim will you have for the back. do you have any clue what color you are gonna paint this thing?

[Rinkrat456]

Are you asking me how bad I need the tires?You know how many tires I see a day, 30-40 of those will be 235/75R15's. If you pay for shipping I can send ya as many as you want.

[97v8s10]

i think 22" rims would look awesome on that truck. with the back half, how wide of a rim will you have for the back. do you have any clue what color you are gonna paint this thing?
Rim size 22x9.5

As for the collor no clue

[97v8s10]

You know how many tires I see a day, 30-40 of those will be 235/75R15's. If you pay for shipping I can send ya as many as you want.
Shipping would still be around $80?

[Ryan]

I thinks some nice wide 20inch rims would look nice.

Like these
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/350dime/Pictureofgbmspringshoutout008.jpg


The pic is from a local car that runs a 10 second 1/4mile on a 20 inch rim. He doesn't get good traction so he smokes the hell out of the tires but mickey thomson was testing tires on his car so they where free :D .

[97v8s10]

Definatly to deep of a rim for my taste. Nice though.

[brakemaster_43]

Thats a cool design. do you have any pics of the whole car?

[Ryan]

Here's the hole car.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/350dime/Pictureofgbmspringshoutout010.jpg

Beckner's sorry for highjacking your thread

[67Truckin]

[QUOTE=Ryan]I thinks some nice wide 20inch rims would look nice.

Like these
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/350dime/Pictureofgbmspringshoutout008.jpg

QUOTE]
Definitely a good looking set of wheels. :D The wider, the better. :devil:

[brakemaster_43]

thats a pretty sweet car.

[shooter]

[QUOTE=97v8s10
Does anyone think the 22's will fit under the truck with that tire size? QUOTE]

I posted this a number of months ago when I was doing my deciding on my street rod.
Hope this helps http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/wheel_visualizer.asp

Closest I could get was a 65 f150. May help in deciding though. :)

[steve]

Shooter thanks for the great site. The site has my exact truck and the exact wheels I want. That was very useful.

[shooter]

No prob, my friend.

[97v8s10]

This is my rearend tag

WEB-BM 7FC
2 75 9 801A

From what I gather is is a 2.75 with an open dif :(

[97v8s10]

Trying to figure out what it's out of?

[shooter]

Hey, I've got some 4.56 gears laying around if your interested.

[1983BOWTIEBEATER]

Trying to figure out what it's out of?

Got to LMCtrucks.com and go to the online catalog for that year and series. The first pages have codes and vin stuff for telling the years and part types.worth a try

[Rinkrat456]

This is my rearend tag

WEB-BM 7FC
2 75 9 801A

From what I gather is is a 2.75 with an open dif :(
2.75 seems a tad low. Here's a way to tell if that number is close. You'll need to be able to spin the rear tires freely.

Chalk a mark on the pinion or just remember what point you're looking at, and watch how many times the driveshaft makes complete revolutions until the tire makes 1 full revolution. The number of times the pinion goes around completely is the gear ratio.


For example, it would take the pinion 4-1/4 (actually 4.30) turns for one rotation of my tire on Max.

[97v8s10]

The 2.75 gears were offered in my year of truck. That's what the tag says. I want to drive it first before I jump the gun and order an expensive posi for it. The rear could have had some work done to it since I was told it was a drag truck.

[Rinkrat456]

If you're looking at just the tag, the gears could have been changed since then, considering the truck is over 50 years old. That was the case with a Ford 8.8 I picked up, the tag said 3L73 (locking 3.73 differential) but I later found the gears had been changed over the course of the Explorer's life for 4.10's.

[97v8s10]

I'm hoping there's something better in it.

[97v8s10]

By my trucks vin it came with a 272ci v8 2 barrel carb 145hp motor...lol
It was made in kansas City, MO

[97v8s10]

Got to LMCtrucks.com and go to the online catalog for that year and series. The first pages have codes and vin stuff for telling the years and part types.worth a try
Couldn't find any axle tag breakdowns on their website or my catalogs. Thanks.

[97v8s10]

I will be putting the truck back together the way it sits now due to a personal matter that may get messy here soon. You may not hear from me after awhile.

[steve]

I will be putting the truck back together the way it sits now due to a personal matter that may get messy here soon. You may not hear from me after awhile.

I hope everything goes ok for you.

[Ryan]

I hope everything works out alright for you.

[Lvtrucks2000]

I will be putting the truck back together the way it sits now due to a personal matter that may get messy here soon. You may not hear from me after awhile.

Hope it's not a divorce or anything like that. I have a buddy that is going through it and they can be bad. Good luck man.

[brakemaster_43]

hope all goes well for ya.

[shooter]

hope all goes well for ya.

My thoughts exactly

[Rinkrat456]

I will be putting the truck back together the way it sits now due to a personal matter that may get messy here soon. You may not hear from me after awhile.Don't make me come down there and straighten things out! :D

You've got my cell #, call anytime ya need to.

[97v8s10]

Don't make me come down there and straighten things out! :D

You've got my cell #, call anytime ya need to.
Thanks bud... It's been along time comming.

[97v8s10]

I may have to get rid of this truck to get some kind of daily. :(
I still have not receved the title to the Subaru and I'm quickly running out of time.
Anybody got a good running 2nd gen that's wants to trade?
I hate being stuck in this situation.

[97v8s10]

Well this truck may be gone tomorrow so I figured I'd make a video since it is running better (without the choke.)

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/th_1957FORDF1002.jpg (http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/?action=view&current=1957FORDF1002.flv)

[02whtxblazer]

Well this truck may be gone tomorrow
What kind of DD do you have in mind? Have you had any luck with the title? I haven't talked to you in a while......

[97v8s10]

I got the Nissan back (that was a crappy deal, I'm still burnt about it)but it's so beat down it's not worth fixing for a daily. I should be getting a 1992 Ford Thunderbird SC. I know it's not an s10 but I have wanted one for awhile.

[steve]

I got the Nissan back (that was a crappy deal, I'm still burnt about it)but it's so beat down it's not worth fixing for a daily. I should be getting a 1992 Ford Thunderbird SC. I know it's not an s10 but I have wanted one for awhile.

It is too bad you have to get rid of the truck. That beast looked like a fun project. Although a Super Coupe could be equally fun. How good of shape is it in and is it standard?

[97v8s10]

It is too bad you have to get rid of the truck. That beast looked like a fun project. Although a Super Coupe could be equally fun. How good of shape is it in and is it standard?
Clear is peeling on the hood but the body if nice. It's a 5 speed!

[mreed]

Damn...no truck at all then? That sucks! I just found some pictures of your Ford. Pics I took when it was all orange. I knew it looked familiar.

[97v8s10]

Damn...no truck at all then? That sucks! I just found some pictures of your Ford. Pics I took when it was all orange. I knew it looked familiar.
Please post them if you can. The Nissan drives but for how long I don't know. I want something more reliable and have no money to buy anything. This is the only logical choice I have on my end.

[Ryan]

Wow I must have missed the burnout vid. Sucks to see it leave. Are you gonna get any project in the near future.

[steelhorserider0891]

i took a friend and went to pull a car hauler home for him a couple weeks ago..ended up it was a guy i grew up with that had the hauler..he had his garage door open so i was peeking around in a mess that you couldnt even walk through.
And guess what i found..it looked to be the exact truck. i ask him and i believe he told me it was a 57 also..it looks identical, its flat black or black primer even. i have no interest in the truck, he drives a rig so it will set there for ever im sure..so if ever your wantin another then let me know, ill get some info for you. he sold the car hauler for 50.00 so it might be able to be had for next to nothing. as soon as i seen it i remembered you was talkin bout having to get rid of yours..

[97v8s10]

i took a friend and went to pull a car hauler home for him a couple weeks ago..ended up it was a guy i grew up with that had the hauler..he had his garage door open so i was peeking around in a mess that you couldnt even walk through.
And guess what i found..it looked to be the exact truck. i ask him and i believe he told me it was a 57 also..it looks identical, its flat black or black primer even. i have no interest in the truck, he drives a rig so it will set there for ever im sure..so if ever your wantin another then let me know, ill get some info for you. he sold the car hauler for 50.00 so it might be able to be had for next to nothing. as soon as i seen it i remembered you was talkin bout having to get rid of yours..
Yeah.. find out for me. Location?

[mreed]

Please post them if you can.


Rrrgg...I have pics spread all over the place on several diff. computers! I can't remember where they all are. Here's the only one I have on this one (I think). I'm tired of looking...but here ya go. This was at ITB 07. I saved it when I was browsing web sites because it was for sale & a friend of mine was asking about it.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/reactivecustoms/IMG_7047.jpg

[97v8s10]

Thanks Mike. That picture confirms the shoddy job was done before the guy I got it of of. Since the guy didn't show up or call me yesterday I may end up keeping this truck.

[steelhorserider0891]

if you look at the first pic and the last pic...they both have the same bent bumper..jus an observation

[97v8s10]

Back from vacation and decided I'm keeping this truck. (no matter how much I need a better daily) So here's what's new.

Pics first.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2055.jpg
current cluster.. or lack of

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2056.jpg
$23.49 cluster ( $9.99 + $13.50 shipping)

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2057.jpg
New cluster mocked in.

My worst fear was realized as I pulled the crappy cluster. The wiring harness is really hacked up. I'm talking bad. I don't know how it even works. LMC has a new harness for $400. Ebay I have found one for $350 not counting shipping.
I may try to unhack the harness since there isn't much to it but it will still be a pain in the butt.

[Hicks84s10]

Hacked up things. Thats why I'm leary off older vehicles, and ones people have already started. But I'm sure youll get it all figured out.

[Rob]

...My worst fear was realized as I pulled the crappy cluster. The wiring harness is really hacked up. I'm talking bad. I don't know how it even works. LMC has a new harness for $400. Ebay I have found one for $350 not counting shipping.
I may try to unhack the harness since there isn't much to it but it will still be a pain in the butt.

I'd say build a custom gauge panel with "custom" gauges and say f*ck the stock set up. If needed I could cut you out the panel when you figure it out.

[mreed]

I'd say build a custom gauge panel with "custom" gauges and say f*ck the stock set up. If needed I could cut you out the panel when you figure it out.

Word...those trucks are soooo simple it would be a waste of money to buy a 3 or $400 harness. Gut every single wire in there and replace with new. Get an EZ or Ron Francis Bare Bones fuse panel (EZ Wiring is much cheaper) with a horn relay, turn signal flashers and the other necessities and call it a day. Seriously, once you start in on the new wiring it should only take a day.

[Ryan]

Glad to see your keeping this truck

[97v8s10]

Word...those trucks are soooo simple it would be a waste of money to buy a 3 or $400 harness. Gut every single wire in there and replace with new. Get an EZ or Ron Francis Bare Bones fuse panel (EZ Wiring is much cheaper) with a horn relay, turn signal flashers and the other necessities and call it a day. Seriously, once you start in on the new wiring it should only take a day.
I like the price of the EZ Wiring harness but they all say they they use GM column plugs. How would I use this on my column? I'm having trouble locating a wiring diagram for my truck. Most of the factory harness I need is gutted out and I'm not sure where I would start. It may make more sence when I pull it out?

[97v8s10]

Oh yeah... I like the look of the stock gauge cluster so I'd like to keep it.

[steve]

Sweet beck still got a truck project!!!!! Beck I agree with you on the stock cluster. It looks much better. But if I was you I would look for some good used classic style gauges for the truck, those after market ones aren't doing it justice.

[97v8s10]

I'm trying to buy a drivetrain donor car from my dad. So I can go fuel injected.
4.6 automatic. That motor should make a nice cruiser.

[Carl7051]

This truck makes me believe I was born 30 years too late. Suicide doors, alittle paint, some TLC and this truck will be rockin...im jealous as hell! :cool:

[97v8s10]

I have my donor car. Will take some pics tomorrow!

[97v8s10]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2058.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2059.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2060.jpg

[97v8s10]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2061.jpg

[02whtxblazer]

Can anyone imagine Beckner crawling out of that sunroof?

[Ryan]

Yah I could...

[Hicks84s10]

yes, yes I can.

[97v8s10]

That's how I get out of the car lol! Somebody needs to buy my 460.

[97v8s10]

I started ripping the donor car apart. It was fun having to cut the drivers door off! Will try to have pics tomorrow.

[97v8s10]

Here are some pics of what's left of the donor car and some stuff laying on the garage floor.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081943.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081943a.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081943b.jpg

[97v8s10]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081944a.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081944.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0524081953.jpg


Nothing like cutting up a car!

[s10xtremist]

Sweet!

You putting the whole drivetrain from the car into the truck, IRS and all?
How bout that floorpan/tunnel?

[97v8s10]

Yes. The IRS and the firewall/ trans tunnel will be grafted into the truck. Using the firewall so I can use the heat/ AC uint out of the car and the trans tunnel so the console will fit the floor better.

[Rob]

Yes. The IRS and the firewall/ trans tunnel will be grafted into the truck. Using the firewall so I can use the heat/ AC uint out of the car and the trans tunnel so the console will fit the floor better.

Hmm...didn't know T-Birds were IRS. Learn something new every day. Hope the grafting goes pretty easy. Sounds like that could be a pain. Good luck Beck.

[97v8s10]

I'm not exactly sure when they started putting the IRS under the tbirds. I used to have a 91 v8 (302) tbird and it also had the IRS. Not sure if the 89 or 90 model years did. Yeah getting everything grafted to the truck will be alot of work but in the long run it will be nice when something goes bad. I can just walk up to any parts counter and get the parts I need easily.

[steelhorserider0891]

Yes. The IRS and the firewall/ trans tunnel will be grafted into the truck. Using the firewall so I can use the heat/ AC uint out of the car and the trans tunnel so the console will fit the floor better.

so i take it you are also using the dash from the thunder chicken as well as the console?? if so that would look pretty sic..and would be different as hell..if thats the game plan hope it goes the way you wantin it to ...make sure you post progress pics,,would love to see this transformation..their a couple trucks around here that have been interchanged..ones a newer ford f150 with an older maybe 50's style front end on it. then there is a 60-70ish chevy with a 90's step side bed..both are pretty sic trucks..ive thought bought tryin to gratf the front of a pt cruiser onto my s10 pickup, but anywho good luck

[steve]

I can't wait to see your progress Beck! Your project sounds awesome even though it is not a S10.

[Justin_614]

Hmm...didn't know T-Birds were IRS. Learn something new every day. Hope the grafting goes pretty easy. Sounds like that could be a pain. Good luck Beck.

a T-Bird IRS is becomeing a pretty popular thing to ranger builders now adays.

[97v8s10]

Yes.. I'm using the dash. With wise they are dang near identical. Which is good for me. I think all I'll have to do is trim a little off the dash where it meets the windshield. I'm only using half of the center console also. Since I'm using the rear seats out of the car. Gonna build a frame for it to mount to so I don't have to go buy a beanch seat to match the dash.

[97v8s10]

I meant width wise.

[steve]

It sounds like quite the project. I hope this thread turns into a build thread with lots of pictures.

[97v8s10]

Hauled the tbirds carcass today. Brought in $182 for a little less than a ton. I sure gutted that car!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/Parts%20car%20for%20the%2057/0601081614.jpg

[97v8s10]

Started pulling the 57 apart today. I've got a guy comming Wednesday to look at buying the motor and tranny I hope.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0601081855.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0601081855a.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0601081855b.jpg

[steve]

Wow that's a mess of parts, but it sure looks like fun!

[97v8s10]

I should have the motor and tranny sold. Guy came down and put $200 down. He's bringing the Rest of the $500 when he comes to pick it up. It's gonna be awesome pulling it out of the truck. Due to the fact that the cherry pickers legs set smack dab in the middle of the lower control arms.

[97v8s10]

I ordered myself a paint gun. It's a DeVILBISS FINISHLINE 3 HVLP that comes with the 1.3mm, 1.5mm, and the 1.8mm tips. It also comes with a gun hook! To my door is was $150.98 I won't be using it for awhile but at least I will have one. It will work well with my new air compressor. Well... new to me.

http://images.tcpglobal.com/dev/devflg-646.jpg

[Hicks84s10]

glad to see all the progress and that you got the old drivetrain sold. When are you getting the new one? Looks like a sweet gun also.

[97v8s10]

glad to see all the progress and that you got the old drivetrain sold. When are you getting the new one? Looks like a sweet gun also.
I already have the driivetrain. It's out of the thunderbird.

[97v8s10]

Ha... Got the motor and tranny out today. What a pita. Not the funnest thing I have done. Ok... pics

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607081902.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607081902a.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607081946.jpg

[97v8s10]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607082013.jpg

Here is a pic of what's left of my awesome core support... lol

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607081902b.jpg

[steve]

Here is a pic of what's left of my awesome core support... lol

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/0607081902b.jpg

What... Did you have to show that core support who was boss to get your engine out?

[97v8s10]

I had to remove it due to the truck having to be jacked up for me to get the engine hoist under it, and the roof of my garage is only like 7ft tall. I will build a better one.

[97v8s10]

I never showed any pics of the 4.6L out of the donor car so here are a couple. I think it looks just as big as the 460 does.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2306.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2305.jpg

[97v8s10]

I started working on the motor crossmember today since it was really hacked.
Here are some before and after pics.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2300.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2303.jpg

Now half way fixed. Still got to do the back side.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2304.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here are some random pics from stripping the cab. I should have it off the frame tomorrow.Cutting the rool cage bars where they were fastened to the frame was fun also.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2308.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2310.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2309.jpg

Notice how awesomely f'd up the floor is!!!

[steve]

looks like you are having fun.

[bonecrushins10]

dang beck i outa fly you out here to do my work on my x member hope your having fun

[Ryan]

Well looks like fun. Cross member looks good

[97v8s10]

dang beck i outa fly you out here to do my work on my x member hope your having fun

Frame work is a lot less stressful to me than bodywork.

[97v8s10]

Well I got the cab off today. Thanks to the help of a buddy.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2311.jpg

Here's another pic of the motor crossmember area that I still need to fix. Just have to get some cutoff wheels.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2317.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here are some pics of the previous fabricators awesome attention to detail.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2312.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2313.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2314.jpg

With those quality welds that rearend could have come out at any time.

[97v8s10]

More quality work.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2315.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2316.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here's the reason couldn't hardly turn the truck.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2318.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2319.jpg

[steve]

It looks like you have your work cut out for you. Are you starting to regret taking over some one else's project?

[97v8s10]

Are you starting to regret taking over some one else's project?

Heck no. I have a welder and most of the crappy work is getting replaced with the parts from the donor car.

[steve]

Heck no. I have a welder and most of the crappy work is getting replaced with the parts from the donor car.

I guess your not:rolleyes:

[mreed]

I love tearing into someone else's previous project. I feel like an archeologist. It's also fun trying to figure out why they did what they did and what their goal was. I'd say that 90% of the time it's pure laziness but sometimes I learn things.

[97v8s10]

Ok... You've seen the before pics of the crossmember and now vola.... It's done.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2325.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2326.jpg

Now since the motor mounts for the 4.6 are weld in. Should I fill in all the holes where the bolt went for the motor mounts? I will leave the center hole in it though.

I'm asking cause I'm slowing down on this one and taking more time on this. This will be a driven show vehicle.

[steve]

If you don't need them. I would fill them. Now is the time before the frame is painted.

[97v8s10]

There getting filled in. Thanks.

[97v8s10]

Well here's a pic of the crossmember shaved.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2328.jpg

[97v8s10]

Now I'm not sure what I'm gonna have to do to get this motor to fit.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2329.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2330.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2332.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here is the reason why...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2331.jpg

As far as I know they don't make block hugger headers for the 4.6 I've never made my own headers before. Looks like I'm gonna have to.

[s10xtremist]

ZOOMIES!!! :D

Since you're gonna hafta make your own headers, you may as well make it easy to clear the steering box and make 'em "upside-down". Since they're gonna be upside-down you may as well make 'em with turbo flanges. Since they're gonna have turbo flanges you may as well bolt on some twin turbos. Since your gonna have twin turbos..... Well, just post pics when you get the header problem solved.

[97v8s10]

lol... turbos are out of my budget.

[steve]

How much hood clearance do you think you will have if you mount the engine where it is right now? Can you mount the engine up higher to give more header clearance?

[mreed]

Zoomies would be really cool. I'd say try to raise the engine a bit & shorten the stock manifolds. If it comes down to making your own headers, you could tack everything in place & I could tig it all solid for you.

[shooter]

Raising the engine up a bit could do the trick for you. I had to do that on mine. I raised mine up about 2 inches to clear the fuel pump, and shorty header flange. With yours though, where the exhaust exits may take some fabricating. You're good at that, so have you thought about notching the x-member a little to clear the exhaust, maybe?

[97v8s10]

I won't need to notch the crossmmber cause the oilpan and passanger side exhaust clear just fine. I will try making some frame mounts and raise the motor up and see where it's at. I may also look into movine the steering box forward if I can.

[67Truckin]

On the 1950's trucks they had the manifolds upside down with a crossover pipe in the front of the engine over the intake manifold. That might add a nice old school touch to the modern drivetrain.

[mreed]

On the 1950's trucks they had the manifolds upside down with a crossover pipe in the front of the engine over the intake manifold. That might add a nice old school touch to the modern drivetrain.

Oh yeah...that would definitely work. I've seen them that way. Looks pretty cool if you use a stainless pipe.

[97v8s10]

I could see that maybe working. I'll have to have someone make the exhaust though.

[mreed]

I had to run to the big shop to get some stuff & while I was digging around in the "forgotten" room I found this old Ford motor with the crossover pipe above & in front of the motor just like we were talking about.

Forgot my phone & had to use a friend's piece of crap so the pic quality isn't the best. I can get better pics but you get the idea.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/reactivecustoms/0701082248.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/reactivecustoms/0701082249.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/reactivecustoms/0701082249a.jpg

[97v8s10]

I think I could get it to work but I will have to make it tasteful.... lol. I also have 4 O2 sensors to worry about. Hmmm... What to do.

[s10xtremist]

I'm diggin' the idea. It's a way for the new engine to pay homage to the old school way. Kinda like it's sayin, "See? I belong here." Some custom valve covers with "F O R D" embossed in them would be sweet.

[97v8s10]

Well I pulled the motor off the frame and rolled it outside and pressure washed it today. I was tired of of it being so dirty!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2367.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2368.jpg
That's all I have done to it for awhile.

[97v8s10]

I have cleaned and did a little decorating to the garage.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2369.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2370.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here is a pic of my new toolbox and my 60gal air compressor. I have $650 in both. I bought the toolbox brand new. The compressor was used.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2371.jpg

[steve]

That's a nice loo shop you got there...

[mreed]

Wow! Looks MUCH more organized than when I was there. It doesn't matter what size of shop you have, as long are you are disciplined in keeping it organized, you'll have all of the room you need. Now build that truck!

[97v8s10]

Thanks. It's really nice to be able to go to the toolbox and get exactly what I need cause know where it's at! I think I might pull the coil springs out of the front of th truck today and get measurements for the bag cups if your still up for making me a set Mike?

[mreed]

Yep...no prob.

[mreed]

I don't want to belittle you but do you know what you need to measure for the bag cups?

[97v8s10]

I don't want to belittle you but do you know what you need to measure for the bag cups?

Umm... yeah. I think you told me to measure the inside and outside of the coil spring and measure from the inside of the spring pocket to the lower a-arm.(arm all the way up) Correct?

[mreed]

Yep. If you're willing to cut whatever it takes to let it go as low as possible then just bolt everything back up sans rim & coil spring...but considering how low your truck is already, I'd suggest mounting the wheel and jacking up the lower arm until the bottom of the tire reaches the lowest part of the rest of the truck. Take your measurement and subtract 3" (size of the bag collapsed)...There's some other stuff along with it too, like mounting the bag as low as possible in or on the arm but up high enough to make sure nothing rubs...and keeping the bottom bag plate at or below the pivot point of the control arm bushing but we'll jump that creek when we get that far.

[97v8s10]

Well I would have had the measurements for you today but I fought and cut/ground a few bolts that would not come out. I need to take the swaybar out before can get the lower arm up all the way.

Now since I have to redo the floor/firewall I will be lowering the floor (or raising the body... however you want to look at it.) so the frame will need to be flat on the ground. My lower control arm is simular to a mustang II so I should just be able to weld a circle bag plate to it.

[mreed]

Ahh yes...that is correct. For the best performance I can modify your lower arm to make it an actual a-arm instead of just a stick with a strut rod.

Anyway, if you know exactly what make/model of vehicle your front clip is from I can check my prints. Chances are that I have already made some for the clip you have.

[97v8s10]

That would be wonderful but I don't know what the clip is from. It's simular to the mustang II in a lot of ways but the actual clip is different.? I will take better pictures for you in a day or two. Maybe you can guess what it is.

[mreed]

K...if we can't figure out what it is exactly, I can still modify your current control arms deleting the binding strut rod and turn it in to an a-arm by adding a leg and cross shaft. You have the arms and the clip. There's nothing wrong with turning what you already have in to something better. It would probably be easier that way.

[97v8s10]

I'll try to get pictures for you after I get off work today.

[nimrod8560]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2370.jpg[/QUOTE]

Where in Indiana are you from?

[97v8s10]

Francesville 47946

How about yourself?

Nevermind. I seen where you are at in your lowering thread.

[97v8s10]

First blood spilled on this project. I'm sure it won't be the last.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2375.jpg

[97v8s10]

Anyway here are the measurements for the bag cups.

Coil spring
O.D 5 3/8"
I.D 4"

Spring pocket to lower arm (collapsed)
7 13/16"

There are the measurements if I can only afford to go this way.

[97v8s10]

Awesome torch cut springs. Each spring also had a spring spacer in it.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2376.jpg

Here come some pictures to see if you can help figure out what clip this is or if you can work your magic Mike!!!!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2377.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2382.jpg

[97v8s10]

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2378.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2385.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2379.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here are some pictures of the front layed out

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2388.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2389.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2387.jpg

This is all the space I have to run a bigger rim and tire combo. No way with the way it sits can I run 22's. The tire size on the rims now is 195/50R/15.
I guess I'll have to figure out how to "Z" the front clip. Since I've never done one before.

[mreed]

That front clip kind of looks like an old Lincoln. I'm making some rear steer, strut rod delete a-arms at work right now...I'll look at the car when it gets here. Plenty of room for bags though...

[97v8s10]

Sounds sweet. I couldn't find any pictures of lincoln front clips.

[s10xtremist]

A bit off the subject, but in the current Hot Rod mag they're doing some minor work to a junkyard 4.6 mod motor to get 400 NA hp from it. It's from a Crown Vic with 11x,xxx miles on it. I've only glanced at the story, but they haven't done very much. I know it's carb'd, though. I just saw that and thought it might interest you, Beckner.

[97v8s10]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check it out.

[mreed]

With the experience you've attained body dropping your S10, you'll be able to Z your frame no prob. Once you get the needed measurement there are just 3 basic steps. 1st, Z the frame at the firewall. 2nd, drop the frame horns the same amount (you did this to your S10) 3rd, make your steering work again (you've also done this with your S10).

To run a 245/30/22 you'll need atleast a 2.5" Z to put your make it sits the way it does now with the 15's.

Ship me your lower arms and I'll turn them in to real a-arms that will accept an airbag. You'll have to make and install the tabs that the new legs will bolt to but that should be no prob because it looks like you have a ton of room.

Then you can replace that bulky strut rod x-member with a much cooler looking piece!

[97v8s10]

I'm going to bore the t-bird rims I have so they bolt up to the 57 so I can "Z" the frame. Then I will pull the arms and get your address to ship them. Or I could drop them off in persom maybe.

[97v8s10]

Here are some pics of the work I did to the frame yesterday.

Awesome battery box cut off the frame along with the awesome fender mounts.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2390.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2391.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here's the cool frame work on the front. No frame horns! Also the metal they used some thin "ass" metal to cap them.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2392.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2394.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2395.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here's the suprise I found in the frame.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/gotv8s10/1957%20Ford%20F100/CIMG2393.jpg

[steve]

Good thing you open that frame up because that crap would have rotted out your frame in a matter of years.

[mreed]

Yeah...boxing any area of the frame will cause that. Import minis are boxed from the factory and they rot out so bad that they eventually break. If you're going to box any of that back in I'd suggest drilling a few small holes so the condensation can drain out.

Keep me posted on those arms...dropping them off personally would be great. Maybe you could swing over when we have one of our baseball games. They usually just turn in to a home run derby since we play on the Pony League diamond. It's hillarious because there's a weird animal zoo thing just behind left field. Mexican is pretty much the only one of us that can hit it over the 2nd fence. It's not uncommon to see Drunk Roger fetching the ball and running from crazy Alpacas while in flip flops with a beer in his hand! Ahh...good times...

[97v8s10]

Ha Ha.. Sounds fun. Just make sure to have you a cookout the day before!

[97v8s10]

Well I'm gonna have to wait till I get the tires on the t-bird rims switched over to the orange rims to "Z" the frame. Due to the backspacing being a little more off than I thought it would be.

[mreed]

I was wrong about your front clip being from a Lincoln...atleast not an older one. I'd say it would be information you'll need to know eventually. Can you give the guy you got it from a call? What if you need to replace balljoints, wheel bearings, steering components....?

[97v8s10]

The guy I got it off of said it was from a 1998 Lincoln. I don't know though.

[mreed]

Here's a lower a-arm from a 98 Lincoln.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/96/c3/d1a8_1.JPG

Actually it fits:
1995-2002 Crown Victoria
1995-2002 Grand Marquis
1995-2002 Lincoln & Town Car

I guess it doesn't really matter as long as the counter guy at the parts store is on his game...whatever they are, you can get pretty low with them. If you're not comfortable Z-ing your frame, you can Z the control arm. It's like installing spindles.

[97v8s10]

I'm really thinking about scrapping the clip all together. But finding a cheap replacement clip would probaly be more of a pain to find.

[mreed]

Put an S10 front clip on it. You'll gain all kinds of exhaust clearance with the steering on front.

[97v8s10]

Makes me wish I would have kept the 92 I had. Could have stole the front clip and the cab mounts from the cab and frame.

[shooter]

Costed me $75 for my Nova front clip with front steer, if it helps in any way.

[97v8s10]

Well I think if I change the clip I wanna try to keep it ford.

[97v8s10]

As of 11:00am Sunday the 57 is gone.

[BadToad454]

:eek: man you got through some trucks .:rolleyes: So what if i can ask did yea sale this one for ? to get something eles ?

[97v8s10]

I've wanted a mustang for a long time. I came across the 88 notchback I bought and my wife basicly said if I get the car both trucks had to go. I let the truck go for $800 with none of the t-bird stuff. I forgot to take out the shifter for you. Sorry. I was at work when they picked it up.

[i0kepa]

damn dude you change cars more then a girl changes clothes!! hahahahaha

by the way not to jack yer thread but did you see my "pinstripe" on the bike? I took yer advice and did the lime green over the graphics:

http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t4/i0kepa/?action=view&current=Photo_092808_004.jpg
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t4/i0kepa/?action=view&current=Photo_092808_005.jpg

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Damn Joey, the bike looks awesome! The pinstripe really sets it off.