View Full Version : Speaking of waxes?
Mirage
08-25-2005, 05:08 PM
Some idiot I work with said he heard, if you use wax on new vehicles, it will destroy the clear and evertually, the paint! Has anyone ever heard this before, because I sure the hell haven't?
nickr5208
08-25-2005, 06:14 PM
i just had the nose of my truck painted cause of an accidrnt and was told not to put any wax on it for 6 months cause it might hurt the paint :confused: ...the body/paintman is a goodfriend, eventhough ide never heard of this im gonna listen to him cause i sure as hell dont wanna have to pay more insane paint fees
Mirage
08-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Yeah, I know you're not supposed to wax it, if it just got painted, but my truck is pushing 3 years old. If I don't wax it, it will eventually get dull and flat looking, I don't have a garage yet, so she's in the sun, all the time!!
Old Man
08-25-2005, 07:01 PM
I wont use wax and never use wax. Wax will build up after time even if you clay bar it etc and eventually fad the paint out. Polish/Glazes only is what Ive used for years!
You wont ever see a show car see wax and there is a reason for it^^^^^^!
nickr5208
08-25-2005, 07:32 PM
good point old man but alotta of our trucks, mine included see daily driving and though we'd like to think they are show trucks which they can be when cleaned and looking well, the sun will fade the hell out of cars that are sitting outside
Old Man
08-25-2005, 07:58 PM
I wasnt saying as a show car only. Ive used this treatment for 28 years and I live in a snow belt (NY State Lake effect snow region,100 inches a year plus)were salt is put down on TONS. Wax's for the most part work good and do there job to shed contaminents just as long as a good glaze/polish does. If you clay bar it, glaze it then use a polish over it, you'd protect it better than a wax.
Now the next part would be, what do you consider wax??? Alot of the newer high dollar stuff contains NO WAX (parrafins) and are all polmers etc which are derivitives of polish's.
Zaino products (http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc) Has some awesome polishes. It is all I use on my dime. Try it and you will be hooked, like I was. :D
JROD©™®
08-25-2005, 08:08 PM
polish is the way to go. i knew a guy who waxed his brand new ssr and he focked it up majorly...horrible swirl marks all over. you can just rinse and use the car wash spot free rinse for at least 2 years before you need to start waxin...
Wax adds a protective coating to the paint to prevent it from breaking down and oxidizing under the high-energy from the sun (photoelectric effect). This is why we use paint in the first place. If metal is left in the sun (or any other light source, visible or not, of the right frequency characteristic to the specific metal, the light causes electrons to be ejected from the surface making it easier for the metal to oxidize and corrode. Hence, paint, to absorb almost all that radiation and keep it away from the metal. There is no way that waxing is worse than not waxing. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Some waxes also contain UV blockers to help keep the radiation from breaking down the paint, much less the metal. And no, you aren't supposed to wax a freshly-painted car for at least 3 months or so, because it is still curing. The wax also conditions the paint so that it continues to look rich and glossy.
Mirage
08-25-2005, 09:15 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Professor! :D :rolleyes:
big dave
08-25-2005, 10:40 PM
Some older waxes are not compatible with clear coat!! Check the label before breaking out the 20 yr old can of turtle wax.
Mirage
08-25-2005, 11:16 PM
I only buy new wax, have none of that old crap left anymore, it all gummed up
No problem. I need to put that often-trivial information to use somehow I guess. This is as good a place as any. :cool:
i0kepa
08-30-2005, 03:44 PM
to tell ya the truth i never new there was a difference between a wax and a polish. I always thought they did the same thing!! :eek:
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