4cy Too Slow

[RUSS_A_S]

OK so
i have had my sonoma since 2001 (almost new) it has always been too slow but now its getting to me
i have installed a k&n gen 2 intake, stage 1 jet chip, alt pulley, and a electric fan.
however still 2 slow

anyone one have ideas what i should do push more

i have a friend that turboed his and i have not seen it yet he has been working out issues for a half a year now.

that is a option but i dont know if i want to go that route

im here for some ideas

[slowerlowernoma]

upgrade exhuast..


remove ac

best plugs and wires money can buy

maybe a small nitrus shot or something

preformance cams?

thats about all you can do without turbo

OK so
i have had my sonoma since 2001 (almost new) it has always been too slow but now its getting to me
i have installed a k&n gen 2 intake, stage 1 jet chip, alt pulley, and a electric fan.
however still 2 slow

anyone one have ideas what i should do push more

i have a friend that turboed his and i have not seen it yet he has been working out issues for a half a year now.

that is a option but i dont know if i want to go that route

im here for some ideas

[RUSS_A_S]

yeah sorry i forgot i have taylor 8mm wires and i forget the brand plugs i ended up going with

cams now that is something i could go for
what companies make good cams for the gm 2.2

[62vetteman]

if you can find a cylinder head at a junkyard (good luck) have that one ported and polished, 3 angle valve job, bigger valves, maybe hollow stems, then put it on your truck on a weekend or something.
I though about a cam myself, but have come to the decision between swapping a 4.3liter or a V8. I have a 4.3 block (about a 1988).
Heddman headers makes a s10 v8 swap kit through jegs for about $650 (motor mounts, headers, full dual exhaust, milodon oil pan, etc.)
I personally lost interest in squeezing power out of the 2.2 although when I do swap the motor I am going to build the little 2.2 to see how much power I can make on our dyno.

[RUSS_A_S]

well i have a old 350 siting around but i need to rebuild it its from a 79 chyanne or how ever it is spelled
how tough is the swap what do i do about the ecu on a old school engine
plus i think is might be 2 much cash for the effort i mean you will be pushing 350 hp on a rear wheel drive pickup no weight on the the back and plus you will have to change the rear, beef the front suspension and add some stability to the rear like a traction bar for the leafs

i dont know i think that might be going to far it sounds like a never ending project i mean i already have to be carful in the snow to actually get some where even with cynder blocks in the rear.

i think the 6cy would be fine add a supercharger and a locking rear

any body try any thing with other companies 4 cy engine

[62vetteman]

It might be cool, dare I say, to put a honda v-tec motor in it.:rolleyes: Take it easy on me guys i'm just kidding.
The price issue of the v8 is also why i will probobly go with the 4.3. Good luck with whatever you may do "grasshopper" :D

[icemancomethe]

size is everything, there is no substitute for cubic inches. A well prepared v8 will give you all the perfomance you can handle and get very good milage too.

[Brian_K]

I've often wondered what kind of fun I could have with a
secondhand jet engine mounted into an S-10.
(probly bend the frame a little bit, though. :D)

[RUSS_A_S]

I've often wondered what kind of fun I could have with a
secondhand jet engine mounted into an S-10.
(probly bend the frame a little bit, though. :D)

that would be impressive
i would love to see that

[s10350racer]

plus i think is might be 2 much cash for the effort i mean you will be pushing 350 hp on a rear wheel drive pickup no weight on the the back and plus you will have to change the rear, beef the front suspension and add some stability to the rear like a traction bar for the leafs

i dont know i think that might be going to far it sounds like a never ending project .

i think the 6cy would be fine add a supercharger and a locking rear



i see several things wrong with this post. first off i think the cost of a properly built v8 will be much cheaper then the build up of a 4.3. you say to add a supercharger to the 4.3. im pretty sure them things run around 2k if not more and i am certain i can build a 383 for that price and put out more than the 4.3 would. . not to mention all the internals accessories and goodies etc. and for what? a measly 300 hp? swapping out the rear is easy. for the rear end i put a 8.8 in for under $300. as for the front suspension 4.3 stock springs work the best. i put 2" drop spindles and the extra weight of the v8 brings it down another 1.5. its not a hard, expensive swap unless you make it one. and for never ending projects, ask anybody here, they will probably tell you that all their rides are never ending projects. it never stops. even when you think your done, youll find sumthin else to tinker with. hell, look at bill4.3l5spds avatar.

[daryl]

The 2.2 has some potential but not as much as the 4.3 or a v8. Depending on how much power you want to achieve you could still add a header and bigger exhaust system for about another 20hp if that would be enough. However, if you want more and plan to do a swap the v8 route will be about the same and will be 2-3 mpg less but thats not that big a deal if you don't mind paying a bit more for the added v8 power. As for the ECU on the older 350 you have it can either be carburated (no computer) or you can buy a new 350 ecu from a junk yard and make it efi. Efi will be better power and milage if you are willing to set it up and pay extra for it. If the 4.3 is the engine of choice it might be wiser to buy a stock 4.3 s10 and start from there less work and can be the same price if not cheaper. Whatever the choice, don't just go 350 with th350 because everyone else says to and does.

[RUSS_A_S]

I see several things wrong with this post. first off I think the cost of a properly built v8 will be much cheaper then the build up of a 4.3. you say to add a supercharger to the 4.3. im pretty sure them things run around 2k if not more and I am certain I can build a 383 for that price and put out more than the 4.3 would. . not to mention all the internals accessories and goodies etc. and for what? a measly 300 hp? swapping out the rear is easy. for the rear end I put a 8.8 in for under $300. as for the front suspension 4.3 stock springs work the best. I put 2" drop spindles and the extra weight of the v8 brings it down another 1.5. its not a hard, expensive swap unless you make it one. and for never ending projects, ask anybody here, they will probably tell you that all their rides are never ending projects. it never stops. even when you think your done, youll find sumthin else to tinker with. hell, look at bill4.3l5spds avatar.


Yeah I agree there are lots of people that have never ending projects but if you picture yourself as a tech building a car/truck/street rod for a client you sit down in the beginning and plan out the project yes there are changes along the way but in the end you have a solid ride that the client can drive off with and enjoy. And if done right he will only have to come back for repairs. I don’t want to be in the garage all the time building altering and rebuilding again and again I want to be out drive and enjoying my efforts.

And yes everything is going to cost money but that is why I am here I am looking to get ideas. So I can plan my project to be cost efficient. So I would rather get recommendations then criticism.

[s10350racer]

i didnt mean to come off harsh but i was trying to get the point across that the 4.3 build would most likely cost more and have lower performance numbers than a v8. theres no problem with just building something and driving off, but it has to be a well thought out plan and done correctly, not just mickey moused and tossed together in a weekend. youll also find lots of people actually enjoy wrenching on their truck as much as they can. not necessarly fixin mistakes, but making it better in one way or another. plus not everybody has the money of chip foose or boyd and they build their truck as the money flows.

[Hank4444]

hey not to get off the 4.3/V8 subject, but has anyone ever put a Camaro V6 engine into a S-10? And I mean the newer V6, 3.8L H.O. I believe this engine has a lot of potential and not that expensive put in. any comments???