a 454 in a s10 ?

[BadToad454]

Some say it cant be done but im here to tell yea it can! Althoue its not a simple bolt in thing, lots of thought has went into this . It does require major modifations like moveing the brake booster over 1 in and so on and so on. My somona was a 4.3 4l60e trans, ext cab , now long gone. As of right now ive got the motor sitting in ,the booster moved,and wateing for parts. ..So anyone have some thoughts on this ?

[BadToad454]

i screwed up the poll ......should be..... yes i want 1 and nope dont want 1 :mad: o well

[big dave]

Getting a big block to sit in the chassis is no big deal. Getting the exhaust to fit around the steering and suspension is the hard part.

[s10350racer]

what did you do to move the brake booster over? my valve cover hits and if i can move it i can save myself some money by not buying a smaller one

[screamn91]

i have a buddy that put a big block in a blazer. HAVE FUN if you do it. They had to build custom headers. They had a total of about 40 hours in the set of headers. Not an easy task.

[BadToad454]

what did you do to move the brake booster over? my valve cover hits and if i can move it i can save myself some money by not buying a smaller one



There are 3 ways to doit , Easy; shim one side out ( sometimes this works). Hard; go to a junkyard get a smaller one ( i did ). Hardest; redrill the holes over 1in . This is a pain in the butt , you half to move the break booster stud to the other side of the peddel or just weld another 1 on. Now ive done all of this crap and had i used small valve covers this would be fine but no i had to get tall ones ,so i half to move mine again ,(1/2in i hope) its not pritty in there but owell. Nothing my mig cant fix ! :rolleyes:

[s10350racer]

my valve train wont allow for small valve covers or else i would. im gonna neeed at least 2 inches to clear the torquing of the motor as well. i think i might just buy a 7 inch stainless dual diaphram since i have discs in the back now and hope that it will work. if not ill just have to move it over a bit too.

[BadToad454]

Im usen 1/2 steel to bolt to the frame and 327 style rubber mounts on the motor. Ive used the 327 mounts on my other sb s10's in the past and never had any probs. As far as torking goes ,it torks to the right ,why do u need 2in ? ill be happy with 1/2 finger gap!

[adam]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4594211564&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

[BadToad454]

Yea i seen it n loved it.... badassed :p ....Looking at the pics helped me out on a few things. His seems to sit a lot lower than mine and i like that .So im recutting and welding to set mine down another 2in.

[s10350racer]

did it ever occur to you that maybe i like to launch in reverse? seriously though i just want enough room so i can take off the valve cover easily. i made the motor mounts but i honestly cant remember what rubbers i used. knowing me i wrote it down somewhere but i just need to find it.

that s-10 is on ebay again? he must be havin a bad time with npb's. but i do like one of the questions:

Q: hi there, how many miles to the gallon on average do you get with the big block in this s10? thanks.
Dec-07-05
A: it is not good, big cubes and 850 cfm carb,but i seen a yugo for sale Thanks

[BadToad454]

nope the auction for that truck is over someone just saved it. I was thinking about Sidepipes on the truck, need some input on that. I just want something u dont see all the time. O and i need to name the truck too ! i was thinking KONG or somethingorother. Hey does anyone have a program that u can design things like hoods ect ?

[Dimemaster]

My first V8 S10s ran custom headers over the frame and down the wheel wells. There is space under the cab outside the frame for mufflers, with turnouts at the back of the cab.

Sidepipes are a safety hazard *sizzle* and use up ground clearance.

[s10350racer]

i agree. sidepipes are dangerous for idiots. i toasted my calf real good in my neighbors vette.

[bonecrushins10]

dude the frame would have 2 be boxxed an framesupported an braced ,

not 2 mention the suspension for such torque ,


so bout 500 lbs of extra metal , countless lil trciks 2 get her 2 lock up ,


an plus messing around with your brakes to accomidate something to go faster , im nodding


an im nodding no ,

unless it was like a 2 door blazer like that one somebody posted up with a 454 or nos ,

i dont know
im not likeing it

[BadToad454]

Well the truck is more show than go at this point. As far as the boxing and brakes, well thats a no brainer. A set of Willwood's will come next tax time. The whole prosess will be writen down and made into a How to manul with pic's.This will in turn will be sold on ebay to help pay for future mods on this truck and to help people who want to do a big block s10. Yes we all know it can be done but the how of it is know to only a few.Have you ever tryed to ask someone how they did it ? they dont say a whole lot. Im doing it for the challenge and maby help someone who wants to know what it takes . But it seams no one really cares so here i sit. Like why buy a small vette radaitor thats really not goodenuf when with a little cutting and welding you can install a 19x22 that will cool anything you got? Im in the middle of makeing a stering link that will bend like a slinky ( cable) and is strong enuf do do the job. Im a quick thinker and will do the things nessicary to make the job easyer for anyone who wants to know.. Got a problem with your power brakes ? try using a 3 gallen tank thats 21 long x7 round( thats used for air bags)as a vacume resevor and its only $ 40 bucks and is chrome.Its all about the thinking involved to make something work. New ideas

[bonecrushins10]

how would u use the 3 gallon tank exactly ?

ok drop a big block in it sell it on ebay , let some kid buy strap a blower on it an then well see badtoad454 in the slammer for makeing a rocket ,

i was reading a book the othere day , a dodge charger with a 440 made a 0-60 in 7 seconds , an thats a big car , so with ur no weight , cant lock it up in under anything 35 mph , is just crazy talk ,

[BadToad454]

The truck wont be for sale just the info.Im not worred about dragracing this truck but if i do its not all that hard to get an s10 typ truck to hook up ! Just run the vacume line to the tank with a AN fitting with a one way check ball in it and then to your booster. this will allow you to run a big cam on the street and have brakes at low rpm's.

[Dimemaster]

What the hell is bonecrushins10 talking about?

[s10xtremist]

I don't know. But apparently he's not done, he ended his post with a comma. Stand by, there's more to come! Can you handle the suspense?!

[BadToad454]

I think that he thinks that you think that everyone eles thinks that a big block s10 cant hook up i think. Hum who woulda thunk it. :frustrate

[Dimemaster]

BWAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!! :thumbcool I think I understand now.

Anyone with the talent to stuff a street big block in a S10 won't have any trouble getting it to hook up. 29x12-inch slicks under tubs, Detroit Locker, CalTracs, weight redistribution, and drag shocks would probably do the trick. Wouldn't even have to narrow the frame.

[BadToad454]

I got my griffen radatior today, its sweet 19x22. Im cutting the top and bottom off the support.The bottom will be lowered 2 to 4in then reweld'ed.Im gona cover the top up with stainless steel.In the front there's enuf room to put 2 10in fans in without hacking up the hood latch support brace. Im remakeing the motor mounts 1in lower (didnt like the way it sat in there) and will cut and box the cross member to fit the notched oil pan. Once thats all done ill start on the headers, just as soon as i go back to work , work a week off a week since x mass. Cash is tight right now. :sq_angry:

[BadToad454]

Oyea Jimbob01 sent me an email saying hes got a cab strecher for rent. Well i have a ext cab so i dont need it but if you mite need it drop him a line . :D

[bonecrushins10]

dude looking at that cat makes me wanna grab my 22 for all them crazy ninja cats


i seen a vortec 454 on ebay for 2400 sold , vortec heads give me a stiffy lemme tell ya

[BadToad454]

I know hes talking , im just not shure about what ? :confused:

[s10350racer]

apparently ninja cats give him an erection of some sort?

[Dimemaster]

Wow, nice to know I'm not the only person he leaves clueless.

[BadToad454]

Well i got the radiator in tues, and went to work . For the 19x22 to fit ( it looks small) i cut the bottom out and lowered it 2 3/4 inch . Ive got 1in on each side of the radiator between the frame. I cut the top too, manily for looks but i really didnt need to . The 93 and later radiator supports are far different than the 94 n up. I could of just bent a lip in on the top and it would of fit in tight but i just didnt like it . Ive got 1/2 on each side at the top ,plenty of room for rubber thingys to sit the radiator on. he he my hoses are gona be, o about 15 in at the top and 6in at the bottom. After some welding and cleaning its gona get chromed. Theres a place in detroit Mi that will chrome auto parts for yea and its not a bad price. Yea i know my spelling sucks. Thats why i work on cars !!!

[brant]

i was watchin Overhaulin and they had a 572 in one of those cars. Think thats even possible for an s10??

[Dimemaster]

Anything is possible. All it takes is money and talent.

[BadToad454]

Well i remade the motor mounts and i like it much better .Now that it sits 1 1/2 lower ,i dont half to move the booster again .Im gona still use the factory colum shifter , so i cant move the motor back any more . This gives me about 2 1/4 inches to the radiator and im worried that i wont be able to keep it cool. A pusher fan may not keep up with the temp, just dont know yet. Money is a prob right now, with my job only worken half a month it anit cutten it. So tomarrow im going to see if i cant get my foot in the door at a diesel shop somewhere. So ill update this when i can.

[bonecrushins10]

toad what r u going to do bout headers ?

just gonna use the cast logs ?

steering shaft problems ?

[BadToad454]

I'll be makeing the headers myself. I found a shop on line that makes them but i dont like the way there made and the $900 to $1500 price tag. The stering wont be all that hard to do . The hard part on the headers will be clearing the mini starter , its gona be tight.The stock 2 pice driveshaft will work and with racing u joints it will hold up.The 285 60 18s on the back will put the power down no problems.But moveing the frame in 3in on each side will mean a custom gass tank out back.Ill be using a custom set of Lokar cables for the trans and carbs.I think in about 2 years it mite be done and that depends on the cash flow.Hey anyone need there trany rebuilt and live close to Elkhart Indiana ? :rolleyes:

[vortec97]

Nice Job Man I Thought That Was Impossible To Do But YOU Did It Good Job. :d

[Dimemaster]

.But moveing the frame in 3in on each side will mean a custom gass tank out back. :rolleyes:

Fuel cell in the bed.

[BadToad454]

No, i thought about doing it that way but i dont like it. I want the bed to look as stock as possible.Ill make or have made, a aluminum tank that will sit in behind the axel, like a blazer. HMMMMM ...heres a thought how about a 1in plexaglass for a bed bottom ? Sounds cool but ill never be able to afford it. Man , if i had the money this truck would be like no other you ever seen!!!! But it dont matter once its done it will be sold .

[Dimemaster]

Plex is HEAVY. You'll get traction, for sure.

What are you going to do for a spare?

[BadToad454]

Ive got a lot of different ideas in mine for this truck and most are off the beaten path from the s10 street seen. Ive been working on getting the parts i want at the price i can pay , so far its going quite well , with time. Ive got my 22 gal fuel cell , ladder bars , ford 9 inch rear end,2inch drop spindles, motor built and still working on the headers.making your own headers is a pain in the ass but when done will save me a butt load. Ive got the rims and tires in mind , 17 x 10 in the front and 18 x10 in the rear , toyo proxes s/t 285 50 18 , and 255 40 or 45 17. The stock v6 springs will work just fine and as soon as i fugure out where to find the right steel , ill start making the front a arms 2 inch longer than stock for that wide look i want . The finder lips will be flared out like the old scca race cars 4 inch in the front and 5 in the back . Red shag fabric will be used in the cab as well in the bed and i got this idea to use the bullet licens plats bolts on the sides of the bed to make the truck look mean and it does with only a few for mock up .I cant say when ill be done but you can bet it will be a bad assed ride . :devil:

[bigblock96]

the thing with the napa truck it was a complete new frame from auto-fab

[BadToad454]

the thing with the napa truck it was a complete new frame from auto-fab

what napa truck ?

[BadToad454]

Well im done grinden all the 140 some welds . As soon as i get some more gass for the mig , i can weld the tubs to the flanges and the collectors . Then im gona send them out to be coated and im done with the dam things !!!!!

[97v8s10]

Sweet! One step closer!!!

[BadToad454]

I got the pass side header done , pics in my gallery

[BadToad454]

hpim0373.jpg

[97v8s10]

Here you go Badtoad.

http://mys10.net/yourtruck/data/607/HPIM0373.JPG

http://mys10.net/yourtruck/data/607/HPIM0374.JPG

[BadToad454]

Dam that was fast !!!! Thanks lots Bec...... next time ill send em to yea a little bigger.

[97v8s10]

Send them to me as big as you want! Hope you understood what I was trying to explain to you in the pm I sent you!?

[icemancomethe]

Looks sweet. nice work on the headers.

[BadToad454]

Thanks , the pass side was my first attempt at makeing headers and is the worst side , looking and fitting wise. The driver side is by far better looking and fitting wise and better made as i learned how to build them better . The hardest thing about making the headers is the welding, bad welds means lots of grinding .For some reasion, welding them in -5 weather made for some really bad welds. Cheep welder mabe or wrong wire , i still dont know if i was using the right size wire.All in all they have turned out better than expected .

[Rinkrat456]

That is a tight fit, damn. What inside diameter pipe is that? Any idea on the hp/torque figures yet?

[BadToad454]

That is a tight fit, damn. What inside diameter pipe is that? Any idea on the hp/torque figures yet?
The tubes are 2in , OD and 1 7/8 ID. I didnt want to kill all the tork in the motor with bigger pipes. On the engine dino , it was 525 hp and 609 tq. Mind you that im loseing about 176 hp by going with totaly stock heads. Id designed the motor to work with the stock heads and to try to keep the power down some .I have 1/4 gap all the way around and yes its tight as hell but it should be ok after i tork it a few times . :D Once i get the driver side header done and take a few pics ill pull the motor and strip the frame, get it blasted and ill paint it. What color should i paint the frame ? The theme is aulm, black and red so far.

[steve]

Nice headers!!! They are pretty,

[Rinkrat456]

Any color besides a black frame would look cheesy, IMO. The black frame would accent the block nicely.

[97v8s10]

Here is your pics. They looks awesome by the way!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0378.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0379.jpg

[BadToad454]

Man they look so much better in the pics....lol , however im glad that theyer done !!!! Just alittle more cleaning and off the the coaters !! Now time to strip the frame.And thanks again Bec , its so nice to see some pics in my post..couldent have done that without :D :rolleyes: yea...

[97v8s10]

Glad to help! :D

[97v8s10]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0380.jpg

[BadToad454]

The last pic shows you how tight everything will be and now i want to go with a serptine belt system.If i do ill have about 1/4 inch from the radiator to play with.

[steve]

The last pic shows you how tight everything will be and now i want to go with a serptine belt system.If i do ill have about 1/4 inch from the radiator to play with.

Come on you have a 1/4 inch... that's a mile of space. :rolleyes:

[97v8s10]

That frame does look nasty. Have fun cleaning!

[BadToad454]

Well ive looked online some and found this place. If the headers look ok then ill send them my rear end and a arms and anything eles that mite look good plated . http://www.thermaltechcoatings.com/new_page_4.htm

[icemancomethe]

Great pics. That is going to be some ride.

[97v8s10]

Well ive looked online some and found this place. If the headers look ok then ill send them my rear end and a arms and anything eles that mite look good plated . http://www.thermaltechcoatings.com/new_page_4.htm
The prices of the coatings don't seem to aweful bad!

[97v8s10]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0382.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0383.jpg

[97v8s10]

You better have this half way together by the time I get up there to have my tranny rebuilt! :D

[titiwaka]

Your headers look awesome! I might have to come visit to check it out!

[BadToad454]

Thanks bec... I just thought youall would like to see what kind of parts i put into this motor . The rods are good to 700 hp and 8000 rpm , thoue it will never see it but just incase, cause yea never know..yea know. ARP main studs and head bolts to keep it all together, just incase i need the 8000 rpm. :D And the frame i hacked up to fit the bbc in there.The oil pan looks kinda like that too.

[BadToad454]

You better have this half way together by the time I get up there to have my tranny rebuilt! :D


i dought that man...

[97v8s10]

i dought that man...
Now what is the benifit of running main studs instead of bolts?

[icemancomethe]

It changes the way the toque is applied. Its used mainly on heads of higher hp engines.

[97v8s10]

It changes the way the toque is applied. Its used mainly on heads of higher hp engines.
Ok. Thanks.

[BadToad454]

I knew i better build it right the first time so i went with good parts. I used the studs cause the block is a 2 bolt main and a 2 bolt main is good up to about 600hp or so, a little more with the studs.

[97v8s10]

So what all do you still need to put this truck together? Parts wise.

[BadToad454]

Well once i get the rear end done , not much really .Rebuild the entire front ,rotors breaks ect. Most of the things i need done are custom built parts , drive shaft , the rear end , a arms, rework the fuel cell and make the finder flares. Tires n rims , interior work and paint. The hardets part was the headers ,the rest of it all will just take time and cash. Time i dont have yet as ive been working 12 hours a day for about 3 months 5 days a week and im just to tired to do anything on the truck . Right now i need a posi for the 9 inch , 3.50 gears and coilover shocks . I can get the rear ready but i need the coilovers and i dont want to pay 400 for them. Right now im striping the frame ,got the rear to go yet then its off to get blasted. Its slow going because everything will look dam good from anywhere you look !!!! Show Baby with some go !!! :D

[97v8s10]

Show Baby with some go !!! :D
Some go?! I think you mean Lotta Go! ;)

[97v8s10]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0398.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0399.jpg

[BadToad454]

Well I got one side done . I called a few places and they wanted $400 to $ 550 for tube steel a armas like i wanted.So i did it myself with what i had and i saved so cash too !!!

[Rinkrat456]

A tip of the hat to you BadToad, you just did something that I would be scared shitless to try. I hope your geometry remains the same after lengthening those arms. I'm looking forward to seeing the completed project and how the alignment is!

[97v8s10]

Looking at your lower control arm I figured I'd make a sugestion. In this pic I circled what I am worried about.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0399-1.jpg

Any plans for a gusset or anything? The part that comes off the the spring cradle is a molded gusset for the balljoint I believe. ou may want to recreat that or make a low profile gueest.

[BadToad454]

Looking at your lower control arm I figured I'd make a sugestion. In this pic I circled what I am worried about.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0399-1.jpg

Any plans for a gusset or anything? The part that comes off the the spring cradle is a molded gusset for the balljoint I believe. ou may want to recreat that or make a low profile gueest.


boy you are da sh*t .... Yes i will be reenforcing the lower a arm. I will cut a pattern and weld a nice big plate on the bottom a arms and will do something slimilar on the top ones too, just incase.

[97v8s10]

Just thinking about your safety! Glad you already have gussets in the plans!

[BadToad454]

Shadetree ... all the way baby

[97v8s10]

Shadetree ... all the way baby
That's awesome! ;)

[BadToad454]

This ones for Rinkrat.............the rim/tire guy...lol..

The stock rear end is 54 1/4 axle flange to flange and the ford 9 inch is 59 1/2 , flange to flange. Now thats 5.25 difference + or - 1/4 for good measure. Here is the style rim i will get and the typ of tire i will use , should i go with a wider tire ? The back rim will be 18x10 and the front will be 17x9 what back spacing should i use dont forget the front a arms are now 2 inch wide'er.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-inch-Toyo-Proxes-S-T-Tires-285-50-18-Each-2855018_W0QQitemZ170095396635QQihZ007QQcategoryZ66 476QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=ARE%2D6998166&FROM=MG

[97v8s10]

I think those rims will look real good on your truck!

[Napolehahn]

nice choice on the rims

[Rinkrat456]

Unfortunately you can't really drop to anything lower than a 45 series tire with the weight of the 454, otherwise tire selection would be really easy for you. Any load rating below 1600lbs and you're out to lunch if they warm up. Also, those rims may look really nice but they're your weak point being all aluminum AND they don't offer the sizes you'll need.

So, if I were in your shoes, this is what I would do...
Cragar S/S Super Sport rims
17x9 with 4.5" of backspacing for the front CRR-617934 link (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CRR%2D617934&N=700+400292+300379+4294793320+4294906455+115&autoview=sku)
255/60R17 Proxes S/T front tire (29" diameter 10.2" wide)

17x9 with 5.5" of backspacing for the rear CRR-617934P link (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CRR%2D617934P&N=700+400292+300379+4294793320+4294906455+115&autoview=sku)
285/60R17 Proxes S/T rear tire (30.4" tall 11.5" wide)

If rubbing the fender lip in the rear becomes a problem, get ahold of a ZR2 leaf spring pack and swap your main leaf in place of the ZR2 main leaf, and throw that new Hybrid pack into your truck. You'll gain about 2" out of that in height and increase load capacity to 2 tons in the rear.

Here are a few pics on what I'm talking about.
http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/Rinkrat456/SAS/

[BadToad454]

I forget to metion im running ladder bars in the rear and the rims will be coustom ordered to my/your specks . I hate Cragar S/S Super Sport rims for more than one reasion....But i do get what your saying. And theres only a 300 pound difference between a SB and a BB . So i guess ill keep looking for a better rim then..

[BadToad454]

I did some looking and found out that a Big block is about 260 lbs heaver than a 4.3 so i was close..

http://www.241computers.com/ford/ContentExpress20-30-38.html

[BadToad454]

Sup all , im trying to get a loan to finish this thing and i should know this week if all goes well.This loan will help my credit out a whole bunch , so i just found a reasion to get one... :D .. And that 1994 454 s10 is back on ebay i see, last time it went for 15,000 $ . I guess someone didnt pay for it uh...lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-S-10-1994-2003-chevy-s10-xtreme-v8-454-496-stroker-big-block_W0QQitemZ150115700997QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1348 8QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[97v8s10]

Like I said Good luck getting your loan! That ebay truck is really nice.

[BadToad454]

I didnt get the loan so ive given up on that . Ive been working on the frame on and off for a while now. I got 3/4 of it done , ive been welding all the little holes up to make it cleaner looking. I broke my last sawzaw blade a few min ago cutting off the shock mounts and spare tire holder. Im gona try to get it all boxed up this week so i can get the 9 inch welded up and the fule cell mounting bars in place. pics will be coming soon

[97v8s10]

Here ya go bud.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0402.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/HPIM0404.jpg

[97v8s10]

Looking good! :thumbsup2

[BadToad454]

I did find out that the pass side of the frame from the lower rear a arm mount to the front mounting point of the leaf spring is a 1/2 lower than the driver side. So i think im just gona shim the cab mounts up to make it level . On the bed , the mounts very from 1/4 to 1/2 difference in heighth. GM didnt seem to care a whole lot did they .

[Rinkrat456]

No they did not. When I recommend tire sizes, it's a hit or miss recommendation because with 20's especially, it's all dependent on how sloppy the front suspension geometry is.

[97v8s10]

Wow! I never even measured mine. What a ripoff.

[BadToad454]

Havent finished the frame yet. The front half is done just need to box in the rear and finish welding the billion holes it has. Ive been redoing the garage , top to bottom , side to side. Getting it ready for winter , building cabnets all the way around and nice white walls . Its looking good if you dont look at the floor right now. Once i have it done i can get back to the truck . i do hope to drive it by next summer, pray for me will yea !

[97v8s10]

Good deal. I need to do a makeover in my garage but the truck... I mean bills come first. :rolleyes:

[B94350]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-S-10-1994-2003-chevy-s10-xtreme-v8-454-496-stroker-big-block_W0QQitemZ150115700997QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1348 8QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Does anybody know where to find the fog and fan switches that are on that ebay 454 s10?

[Daniel_Terry]

It's possible, my friend Brad's uncle has a 454 powered S10. Pops huge wheelies. :D

[97v8s10]

Here you go Toad!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/pic1.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/pic2.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/pic3.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/97v8s10/pic4.jpg

[BadToad454]

I got bored yesterday and decided to remove the shifter on the column cause i got a factory floor shifter for it . I had to disassamble the whole thing just to get the casing off the coiumn. I used my grinder to cut the shifter mount off and grind it down flush . Then i fiberglassed the hole in from the backside so that none of the glass would ever fall out, just incase. I cut the bracket arm off at the bottom of the coulmn and grinded it smooth . Next i reassembled the whole thing and spun the shifter slector to where park would be and welded a small pice in to keep it from moving around .So now it looks like it came from the factory this way .Its the small things that make the biggest difference .

[steve]

.Its the small things that make the biggest difference .

You got that right. It is all in the details. That’s why it is taking me so long to put an engine in my s10. I am a fanatic for the details.

[Drifter666]

Does anybody know where to find the fog and fan switches that are on that ebay 454 s10?

try these 2 sites

http://www.rjselectronics.com/?gclid=COuatJbHzowCFSMKGgod_lHauA


http://www.autobarn.net/switches.html



enjoy lol

[97v8s10]

Looks really good buddy!

[hawkswish]

cost not being a factor, considered a hydro-vac setup similar to those used on many 3/4 ton and most 1 ton pick-ups? :confused: ...eliminates vacuum can and runs off of power steering pump....not like a 4 or 5 hp parasitic loss would kill you with a 454.


just a thought.

Michael

[BadToad454]

cost not being a factor, considered a hydro-vac setup similar to those used on many 3/4 ton and most 1 ton pick-ups? :confused: ...eliminates vacuum can and runs off of power steering pump....not like a 4 or 5 hp parasitic loss would kill you with a 454.


just a thought.

Michael


Ive thought about useing that , ive seen a few cars with em at shows but i wont know till i get to that point.As far as cost goes i can get one at the junkyard for 50$ they have 5 trucks there with em.

[BadToad454]

Nothing new to report other than bills are eating up all the money i have but ive had this saved for a long time and thought some of you mite like to read this , its interesting.


http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

[97v8s10]

I totally forgot about the oilfilter thing you were talking about. Definately interesting stuff.

[BadToad454]

Anyone eles find the oil filter thing interesting ? On a side note i have the garage done and ill be getting back to doing something on the truck tonight ! Ill finish up the holes in the frame and box in the back half and then setup the 9inch.

[97v8s10]

Glad to hear. Can't wait to see progress on the truck!

[BadToad454]

Well maby not tonight , i just got the new Dawn of War, Dark Crusade pc game. Ive just got to see what its like !!

[97v8s10]

http://image.hpphoto.com/rs/43EA0976-77D8-4DCF-9AB5-8D471838BE93/screen-show

http://image.hpphoto.com/rs/E4F1C9B3-FBB0-49E7-8101-A215F85CE365/screen-show

[97v8s10]

http://image.hpphoto.com/rs/D47BADDC-2034-473F-8FDA-F1F5E033E6D3/screen-show

http://image.hpphoto.com/rs/E124525F-4BA4-4CEF-97EB-83E13AD644C4/screen-show

[97v8s10]

That looks fantastic!

[BadToad454]

Thanks .... Now if i can just get someone to ( loan ) me some coilover shocks , ill be good ....lol :D

[steve]

WOW... Nice fab work!

[m.x.er23]

Im newer to the site and this is the first time that i have looked into this thread and i have to say, youve got some serious talent! That looks awesome. i could only imagine what would happen if i were to try to make headers! Of course being 16, i dont have much for experience behind me either. wish i lived somewhere close to see that thing roll out when its done.

[BadToad454]

:D Thanks ... The headers were a learning curve for me . I redid them 3 times and still could change a few tubes to get them closer but they fit and that P.I.T.A is done !!! Im finishing up the A Arms today and mite bolt them on with the 2in drop spindles just for kicks . When i get the coilover shocks , ill mount them on the front side of the axle. That leaves me room to run the exhaust and still clear everything. The drive shaft is 6 ft long . Im going to have working AC too but im not shure where im going to mount the cooler for it yet. Space it tight , ive got 1/4 from the water pump to the radiater , but insted of a v belt it will have a serptine system on it . The same typ that we have on our trucks right now , yes off of a 4.3. Its slow going but hey ive got nothing better to do .

[m.x.er23]

So are you going to mount pull fans on the front of the rad then? Next question will it all fit under the hood with out a cowl? :)

[BadToad454]

So are you going to mount pull fans on the front of the rad then? Next question will it all fit under the hood with out a cowl? :)


Yes , ill mount 2 small 10 inch fans in the front and HA HA HA HA HE HE HO UH,, NO

But it would without the tunnel ram .

[BadToad454]

Wow its been a long time but im slowly buying some things for the beast still. Im going to buy the coilovers for it but im not shure what spring rate i need for them .Any help out there ?

[Rinkrat456]

As a reference, I calculated the need for 475-500lb QA1 coilvers in a stock 4x4 S10 with an aluminum V8. For an all iron 454, perhaps in the neighborhood of 700lb? Call up QA1 and ask one of their tech guys. I'm not sure of the weight you've added with all the modifications, but as another point of reference, Syclone drivers with twin turbo V6's and stiff suspensions are using 600, and oddly a big block will weigh only another 50-100lbs more, considering you have a 2wd frame and no front differential or transfer case.

[BadToad454]

Thanks but i needed a spring rate for the rear.... but i guess i can call about it .so no biggie

[BadToad454]

Ive been looking all over the internet trying to find pic's of any small trucks with a big block in them. Id like to make a web page just for thies typ of trucks but i really cant find any ! There was 2 around my town but they were sold and are gone now . If anyone finds a truck like this please take down there info and get as many pic's as you can and send them to me . Or if you have a web sight or anything let me know will yea . As for my truck it will be on the road this summer , it wont be done ( far from it ) but i will drive it .

[Justin_614]

aren't you done with this thing yet lol....

[Rinkrat456]

Start putting a big block in your S10, Justin, and we'll see how long it takes ya. :D

[Justin_614]

Start putting a big block in your S10, Justin, and we'll see how long it takes ya. :D

I will keep my 4 banger thanks...

[BadToad454]

Justin ... i could of been driveing it long ago but it wouldent of been what i wanted. Yea i could have a 454 in a s10 but thats all it would be , a stock s10 with a way too big motor in it . I wanted something different but lets face it , just haveing a 454 in there dont make it special . Its all the other little things that do. And thats what im looking for. I want something that when someone see's it , thell be talking about it for a very long time.

[Justin_614]

well I can wait too see it finished... ITB This year will be the MyS10.com meet spot officially...

[BadToad454]

:D No its not dead yet ! Ive got a butt load of parts just begging to be put on and welded up . Once the vega is done all my time will be on the Noma ....

Im looking for a electric oven right now , cheep . I need to powercoat a bunch of parts befor i can put em on . Transmission jobs are comeing in so i need to get them done too but the cash is worth it . When i get it to a rolling chasie again ill have a bunch of pics for yea to drool over..The trans will be powerd too..Blood red as will the a arms and a few other parts .Center link and tie rods will get chromed . It will be nice . :devil:

[BadToad454]

I miss the edit button......... On a side note Im looking for a Ford 9 inch 33 spline posi .... If anyone knows of one let me know... The ones on ebay are nuts !!!!!!!

[steve]

Im looking for a electric oven right now , cheep . I need to powercoat a bunch of parts befor i can put em on .


Check out craigslist.org. You may be able to get one free there or if not for very little.

[20twinz]

well I can wait too see it finished... ITB This year will be the MyS10.com meet spot officially...

This summer for sure?

[davidt]

Getting a big block to sit in the chassis is no big deal. Getting the exhaust to fit around the steering and suspension is the hard part.

If it was easy, everyone would have one. Hard work always pays off in the end. Congrats on taking on such a challenge.

[97v8s10]

If I ever sell my motor that console will be comming your way!

[BadToad454]

If I ever sell my motor that console will be comming your way!


Cool just let me know , this summer im not shure but i will try .

[BadToad454]

Hey all .Its been awhile . The 454 noma is just about done . Ive been through alot recently , i am no longer in INDIANA and wont be married here in a few weeks or sooner but ive kept the truck !
I now live in ALBUQUERQUE NM with a woman that ive known for 16 years and shes a car nut . She's got a sweet 64 nova and were starting on a 66 chevelle for her . Car people should only date car people !!!!!!

Heres a little something for yea ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn1-hXGaeYI

[Lvtrucks2000]

AMEN! My wife, the first thing she did when she saw dads impalas and loved them was the time I realized I would have her forever.....

You truck rocks out with its cock out! I can't belive the alternator doesn't rub! And a 454 with double pumpers can be a bitch to keep both carbs running good, is it the cam that makes the truck sound like it is fludding out or the movie quality?

[BadToad454]

AMEN! My wife, the first thing she did when she saw dads impalas and loved them was the time I realized I would have her forever.....

You truck rocks out with its cock out! I can't belive the alternator doesn't rub! And a 454 with double pumpers can be a bitch to keep both carbs running good, is it the cam that makes the truck sound like it is fludding out or the movie quality?

Its the cheep camera and it has rocker arm chatter . Ill take care of the rockers today . Keep in mind that the temp was 39 when i shot the vid but it realy runs good for NO TUNNING . As for the alt, its got a good 2in befor it hits the hood .

[Lvtrucks2000]

I would say the chatter will go away when the timing is fixed then.....But kudos on the project man! I bet the Headers and the master cylinder was a tight fit with all the beef under the hood.

[bonecrushins10]

what no a/c ?

im just kidding i love this truck man i didnt know if it was going to be finished ,

next a blower , not a supercharger a blower right ?


looks good man , throw some paint on it ,


maybe a air scoop to cover the carbs for more of a sleeper look