miata

[bonecrushins10]

mazda miata beat me

came up on him just driving around going back towards my house

had a coffee can on the back , so i stick her down in 3 so she wont get premature on me ,

kept up with him from 30-70 but he was slowly passing me up ,

x code 4.3 with air intake an hp3

[chuddly]

doesnt mean he hasnt hopped his up

[daryl]

Also gotta remember the Miata is smaller, lighter and more aerodynamic it makes a difference at higher speeds it was also standard I bet, but the fact you kept up fro 30 -70 is good considered you drive a truck!

[Rob]

You have got to remember, our trucks don't have top end. All the little 4-banger imports do. You would have most likely taken him off the line, but in the long run, like he did, he'll pass ya. One thing I hate about racing imports, if they have enough road ahead of them, they'll pass ya.

[Injected]

You have got to remember, our trucks don't have top end. All the little 4-banger imports do. You would have most likely taken him off the line, but in the long run, like he did, he'll pass ya. One thing I hate about racing imports, if they have enough road ahead of them, they'll pass ya.

Dumb statement noted.

We learned early that FWD sucks.
http://www.retropedalcars.com/images/Marx-Big-Wheel.jpg
SOME imports are FWD, Miatas are not. Miata's aren't a light as they look being a convertable and with very little power. That car probably wasn't turbocharged, or anything special. Then again, neither are most 4.3 Dimes.

[bonecrushins10]

naw its wasnt turbo charge cuss i wass lookin over when he shifted
when he did u hurd the transmission like shit for a second then clunk an he took off a lil slower

[s10mafia50]

How new was it? If it was a really new one, it coulda been a mazdaspeed mx-5 with a very small factory turbo. If I would of gone for open track days I would have purchased one instead of my s10. I bought it to be a sleeper...but, almost any 4cyl import is quick if they have put a lightweight flywheel on it...Plus 4cyl's have really short gears stock to make them quicker....Most of the time!!!
Andrew

[icemancomethe]

Miatas are known for having 302's dropped into them.

[s10mafia50]

Miatas are known for having 302's dropped into them.

Yikes, kinda like the 80's rx7 having the 350 dropped in em eh?
Andrew

[icemancomethe]

That's how they earned the name Monster Miata

[bonecrushins10]

i seen this dude that stuck a mustang body on it in a hotrod maginze

that would be like a cobra , see if they can stuff the 426 in it

[s10mafia50]

i seen this dude that stuck a mustang body on it in a hotrod maginze

that would be like a cobra , see if they can stuff the 426 in it

I do hope you dont mean to put a mopar engine in a ford.....But a Ford 427 side oiler would make an insane miata......If only it didnt weight 1/4 of a miata.....
Andrew

[Rob]

Dumb statement noted.

We learned early that FWD sucks.

Frankly I would like to know why my statement is dumb. Even though they are convertables they are still lighter than S-10's. I am not an expert on Miata's, but with my experience with 4 cylinder engine cars, they have more top end than the 4.3L's. Yes I know Miata's are rear wheel drive, most people do know that. And to the FWD comment, depending on the application, it does not suck. Actually there are a lot of performance FWD cars out there that can wipe the road with the S-Series trucks and they can handle better in the snow and rain better than most S-Trucks because of the engine weight over the drive axle.

I don't mind constructive criticism, but I hate it when people are rude about it.

[s10mafia50]

Dang, a few of these people being rude???LOL, I take it as a joke mostly, but I hate those people that don't read your post fully, then say something stupid. Gotta love people, very opinionated too.....LOL
Andrew

[Rob]

I hope my response doesn't start a fight, that's not intension. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but please don't disrespect me, that's all.

[YagBom]

I've seen one of each of those the Miata & RX-7 with small blocks. Pretty Badass, but I wouldn't recomend bringing it to a classic car show, unless you want a bunch of old men laughing and saying that it's dumb :p

[Injected]

[font=Arial][size=2]Frankly I would like to know why my statement is dumb.

I'll tell you why it's dumb, but first a little explanation. This is exactly why I kept my screen name on this site the same when we switched over, so everyone would know what to expect when I posted. Oh well, I guess a few will have to learn the hard way. I'm not trying to be arrogant (maybe a little), but the old site's racing/performance section was a wasteland of countless facts and numbers woven into who knows how many long as hell posts between me and a select (we'll say 'special') few who liked to actually post such things. There, I kind of gained the unofficial title of 'resident import/turbo guy' and received (still do) many private messages/emails from guys on the site requesting information, opinions, and such. Though I rarely find a name that looks familiar, I am still an equal opportunity sarcastic ass when I sometimes feel like it. Don't feel singled out, everyone will get their turn. Most people find, such as you will, that I will usually bait them into inquiring about a statement that I made and ask for further explanation. Upon which I will dull your senses with incessant rambling about a number of things. Alright, follow the bouncing ball...

So where is your post dumb? Let's take a look.

You have got to remember, our trucks don't have top end. All the little 4-banger imports do.

SNIP SNIP

I am not an expert on Miata's, but with my experience with 4 cylinder engine cars, they have more top end than the 4.3L's.

What do you mean by more top end? If you mean it has longer gears and revs higher, then I guess you are right, but it surely doesn't make more power or torque, anywhere high or low.

You would have most likely taken him off the line, but in the long run, like he did, he'll pass ya. One thing I hate about racing imports, if they have enough road ahead of them, they'll pass ya.

How would he take you off the line? The Miata, as I am now aware that you are now aware are RWD is at no disadvantage to the S10. Torque you say? Nope, sorry, but look at the stock 0-60's for both cars. What is it about racing imports that allows them to catch you with 'enough road ahead'? And why the hell would you group such a large group of cars together? That's dumb all in its own special way.

FWD sucks. There is no way around it. I wonder why anyone would really defend it. I'm the 'import guy' and understand this. Try to wrap your head around this. The natural reaction of a FWD car in a situation where driving at the limit causes a loss of traction, what happens? Understeer. This is kind of a safety feature, as most people react better in understeer situations. That is just about all the good that can come of FWD. I know that there are many fast FWD cars out there, you don't have to tell me, but so much energy is used to simply gain traction. But I know guys who use cheater slicks to get into the low 13's on their SRT-4's. Suck. Can't drive those on the street. Stopping and turning? Say you are approaching a good semi-sharp turn in your FWD suckmobile. You brake into the turn, downshift, mash the throttle at the apex and RRRRRRR! All of your weight had transferred to the rear wheels and you lost traction, got horrible understeer and ended up in the wrong lane. Watch out for oncoming traffic. What about weight distribution? Suck. Just face it, the suck outweighs the good.

Even though they are convertibles they are still lighter than S-10's.

Power to weight ratio's are more important is my point, just don't go assuming a small car weighs a hell of a lot less or has the same amount of power behind that smaller chassis. Older miatas (and especially tired ones) aren't that fast with only a factory rated 133hp but they weigh about half as much as a Dime (2300 lbs for the research impaired). Mazda's as such were known to be nimble due to their superior balance. You are right about this though. The reason the Miata won was a combination of better power:weight/gearing/maybe-some-aero and other variables that we don't care to mention.

Thanks for playing!

Dang, a few of these people being rude???LOL, I take it as a joke mostly, but I hate those people that don't read your post fully, then say something stupid. Gotta love people, very opinionated too.....LOL
Andrew

Taking it as a joke is a great. Most people get their panties wrapped around their neck thus cutting the oxygen to their brain off. I read his post fully, though, and if you read my post, you'll see it's not stupid :D . I'm actually probably the most open-minded guy in the forum, I just take some getting used to. Thanks Andrew.

I hope my response doesn't start a fight, that's not intension. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but please don't disrespect me, that's all.

I hope now that we understand each other better and do apologize if I hurt your feelings. It's not personal with me and I would think us better than to fight on an internet thread.

By the way, I have a SEVERE sleeping disorder and this was posted written and posted from 3:30 to 4:45 in the AM, so please excuse the deliriousness or typing/spelling errors.

[bonecrushins10]

im with rob on here If I'm wrong, please correct me, but please don't disrespect me,



1999 mazda miata
EPA Fuel Economy:
City: 22 – 23 Highway: 28
Available Engines:
142-hp, 1.8-liter I-4

Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic w/OD
5-speed manual w/OD
6-speed manual w/OD

i wish i knew what the wieght is


its got me on aerodynamics
most likely gots me on weight
power not so much but i think this the 6 speed he was shifting alot

i got 190 horsepower at 5200 rpms high end
an 250 ft lbs of torque at low end 2500 rpms

so i prolly would showed him up from a stand still to bout 60 or 70 miles an hour again it was just driving saw some rice wanted to make dinner but didnt have the balls to top out my truck on a busy section of 4 lane road in the day time

i cant even get a job as a pizza boy becuase of my othere tickets

i dont wanna lose my license or hurt some body

wait till i get a 6 speed ricer boy i wont have to use a bum 4l60e with 170000 miles on it

[s10mafia50]

What do you have in the way of gears? That could explain also why the miata pulled away. I think some of the newer n/a miatas run 14's in the 1/4(plz inform me if i'm wrong) LOL, you guys all crack me up. And as far as tickets go, try getting an "Exhibition of Speed" Ticket, Which is what mine was for street racing, I know you must need a radar detector, but if a cop even sees you side by side with revved engines, he will give you a ticket for "Exhibition of Speed" since they don't know any better....BTW, I still toasted the bimmer....LMAO....I think this ticket is gonna be around $350 and take 4 points off my licsence....SHIT!!!! :eek:
Andrew

P.S. Even a 5speed would of helped your case. As long as you are in your hp band, anything will work............4,5,6sp manual will work for anything.....most of the time manuals beat at's.

[bonecrushins10]

i need a new transmission it slips out of overdrive so i stuck it in 2 an 3 so i would stay in the power band got 2 55 before i shifted to 3rd an quit at 65-70 i dont remember ,

i hate thinking im gonna loose my license or ride or hit a lil kid or somethin

[s10mafia50]

That is why you try to talk with the person, make a little detour to a well known deserted area, and then have at it!!! But that sucks bout ur overdrive. And all that shifting on the tree makes me wanna throw up!!!!LOL Have fun, be safe, and dont get caught.
Andrew

BTW, what gear ratios do you have in the rear end???? 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.42, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10, 4.56????

[woody2004]

next time you see him have him chain up with you or see how much ply wood you both can carry. The miata wins in a race, but thats about it.

[bonecrushins10]

oh i already know i had so much sheet rock in my truck one time i could feel it bottoming out on some bumps , an a flat tire one time with gravel in the back


i forgot what gears i have an how to figure out

its a 99 2wd 4.3 with a 4l60e so whats the digit or letter for what gear ratio in the vin or glove box code

[Rob]

Injected,

I appologize for taking your post as disrespectful, I just would have chosen different words.

I agree with you about the placing TOO much power to the FWD. There are too many things going on up front that the added power does not help. They steer and brake while cornering (which you already know) and then while accelerating, they loose weight, thus loosing traction (again which you already know). So in a racing/performance application, you can say they suck.

Actually I agree with everything you are saying. I think I should have typed more to explain what exactly what I meant. It's hard to convey exactly what you mean over the internet without typing a lot.

I not some ingnorant guy who thinks he knows everything about automobiles, but I feel like I know a decent amount of info and I am always willing to gather new info. Like I said if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Now that I know your "style" I hope to have more enlighting convos with you.

[s10mafia50]

oh i already know i had so much sheet rock in my truck one time i could feel it bottoming out on some bumps , an a flat tire one time with gravel in the back


i forgot what gears i have an how to figure out

its a 99 2wd 4.3 with a 4l60e so whats the digit or letter for what gear ratio in the vin or glove box code

There should be a set by your paint code

it should be something like gu4, gt4 or somethin like that
Andrew

[Injected]

im with rob on here If I'm wrong, please correct me, but please don't disrespect me,



1999 mazda miata
EPA Fuel Economy:
City: 22 – 23 Highway: 28
Available Engines:
142-hp, 1.8-liter I-4

Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic w/OD
5-speed manual w/OD
6-speed manual w/OD

i wish i knew what the wieght is


its got me on aerodynamics
most likely gots me on weight
power not so much but i think this the 6 speed he was shifting alot

i got 190 horsepower at 5200 rpms high end
an 250 ft lbs of torque at low end 2500 rpms

so i prolly would showed him up from a stand still to bout 60 or 70 miles an hour again it was just driving saw some rice wanted to make dinner but didnt have the balls to top out my truck on a busy section of 4 lane road in the day time

i cant even get a job as a pizza boy becuase of my othere tickets

i dont wanna lose my license or hurt some body

wait till i get a 6 speed ricer boy i wont have to use a bum 4l60e with 170000 miles on it
Sounds like you have bigger problems than losing to a Miata. What about the Miata makes the guy a 'ricer boy,' and what 6 speed are you swapping in?

For those who didn't read my post, like my bone crushing friend here, the Miata weighs a mere 2300 lbs. and has an 18-23% power to weight ratio advantage depending on what kind of dime you drive. Traction is not an issue with the Miata having half the weight of the car over the rear (which goes back to that balance point I made earlier).

[Injected]

Injected,

I appologize for taking your post as disrespectful, I just would have chosen different words.

I agree with you about the placing TOO much power to the FWD. There are too many things going on up front that the added power does not help. They steer and brake while cornering (which you already know) and then while accelerating, they loose weight, thus loosing traction (again which you already know). So in a racing/performance application, you can say they suck.

Actually I agree with everything you are saying. I think I should have typed more to explain what exactly what I meant. It's hard to convey exactly what you mean over the internet without typing a lot.

I not some ingnorant guy who thinks he knows everything about automobiles, but I feel like I know a decent amount of info and I am always willing to gather new info. Like I said if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Now that I know your "style" I hope to have more enlighting convos with you.



See you in the threads.

[bonecrushins10]

what make him a ricer boy hmmm lemme think MAZDA , maybe a ford company but still gots the rice roots , an if you got a coffee can on the back your offically RICE

i dont know about a 6 speed i just wanna build up my v8 project , i got enough for the used gen III 6.0 i want an im gonna get but i was thinking about an alvanches 5.3 vortec with flexible fuel that can run on e 85 still has a respectable 270 somethin horseys


i wonder if u can use e85 under forced induction tho either a s/c or t/c



it is like 110 octane

so i dont know if there are denation issues

[sdime]

dont worry bout it. i cant pull a f***ing baja bug.

[Injected]

what make him a ricer boy hmmm lemme think MAZDA , maybe a ford company but still gots the rice roots , an if you got a coffee can on the back your offically RICE


:rolleyes:

To quote one of my good buddies from the old site (forgive me for not remembering who), "Imports are to rice, what domestics are to scalloped potatoes." What the hell are 'rice roots'? If driving an import makes him a ricer boy, then you too are a ricer boy, or potato boy, your choice.

[bonecrushins10]

i know my truck with a 262 190-200 horsepower platfrom with a miata

which block is alumium or are they alumiun the 6.0 gen III or 5.3 vortec flexible ?

i really like the idea of flexible fuel kinda remind me of the old duece an a half than can run on diesel , gas , kerosene and propane .

prolly if i wasnt hualin chain link fence an had the system bumpin i wouldnt have suck so much miata exhuast ,

it wasnt like i was left in the dust just 1 1/2 car links at 70 mph

[s10mafia50]

Any manual would of taken care of the guy in the miata!!! Just dusted a hatchback 2.0L w/mods(yes I know it weighs a little more) by about 5 truck lengths! Bonecrushin, I send you a verdict of a manual trans. for all 4.3L vortecs!!!!!!! Or you need a set of 4.10's. Sorry, got a little off topic.
Andrew

[Injected]

Any manual would of taken care of the guy in the miata!!! Just dusted a hatchback 2.0L w/mods(yes I know it weighs a little more) by about 5 truck lengths! Bonecrushin, I send you a verdict of a manual trans. for all 4.3L vortecs!!!!!!! Or you need a set of 4.10's. Sorry, got a little off topic.
Andrew

Hatchback what?

[s10mafia50]

It was a brand new mazda 3, had a huge can out the back and carried a bunch of decals. The kid thought I was racing him the light before on a 1 to 3 shift. So I let him have it....BTW, the mazda was a stick i believe, and the only thing I think it could have would be a 2.0. The kid evidentally lives in my building, and claims to have many mods to it.
Andrew

[s10mafia50]

I don't believe him though, since my buddy's 318ti bimmer will keep somewhat close to me. And I didn't have spray 1 hour ago!!!!

[bonecrushins10]

your gonna throw a piston thru the oil pan of that truck ,
tthen youlll be walkin if your not blown up

[Injected]

It was a brand new mazda 3, had a huge can out the back and carried a bunch of decals. The kid thought I was racing him the light before on a 1 to 3 shift. So I let him have it....BTW, the mazda was a stick i believe, and the only thing I think it could have would be a 2.0. The kid evidentally lives in my building, and claims to have many mods to it.
Andrew

Nope, the Mazda3 hatchbacks are a 2.3L and come with an optional 5 speed manual or a 4 speed "sportmatic" which allows you to shift the auto. The freaking thing weigh's over 3100lbs with a driver in it and only has only 160hp PLUS is FWD. They take 9.13 seconds just to get to 60!!! You better have won, and by more than five truck lengths since you apparently run Camaro Z28 quartermile times.

I love these bragging stories. At least they are more accurate than some of the crap put on the old site. I remember one guy claiming to be taking turbo supras light to light. Good ole DannySS (wonder if he's on here now because I don't see anyone using that name) once thought that a race between a 4.3 and some econo compact sedan was a waste of time, thought he might as well be racing a parked car. They raced (not DannySS, but the original poster and his buddy) and the sedan won. The point is that a Dime will for the most part only be able to take out overweight and underpowered econo cars. But that's alright because they are afterall, econo trucks.

I'm actually waiting to see if the MazdaSpeed3 is AWD, because if it is I'm going to buy one without a doubt.

[bonecrushins10]

danny posts now i seem in the 6 cly an performance , hes knows his stuff

[s10mafia50]

Nope, the Mazda3 hatchbacks are a 2.3L and come with an optional 5 speed manual or a 4 speed "sportmatic" which allows you to shift the auto. The freaking thing weigh's over 3100lbs with a driver in it and only has only 160hp PLUS is FWD. They take 9.13 seconds just to get to 60!!! You better have won, and by more than five truck lengths since you apparently run Camaro Z28 quartermile times.

I love these bragging stories. At least they are more accurate than some of the crap put on the old site. I remember one guy claiming to be taking turbo supras light to light. Good ole DannySS (wonder if he's on here now because I don't see anyone using that name) once thought that a race between a 4.3 and some econo compact sedan was a waste of time, thought he might as well be racing a parked car. They raced (not DannySS, but the original poster and his buddy) and the sedan won. The point is that a Dime will for the most part only be able to take out overweight and underpowered econo cars. But that's alright because they are afterall, econo trucks.

I'm actually waiting to see if the MazdaSpeed3 is AWD, because if it is I'm going to buy one without a doubt.
Thank you for the info, I had no idea on what it was, but I did it N/A which makes my truck about a 15 flat contender(traction limited). If I had to guess on the 1/4 time of that mazda, I would say a high 16/low 17second car??Am I right? And I remember seeing someone with the name of Dannyss on here just recently.LOL
Well, thanks guys
Andrew
P.S. I beleive about 2.5 car lengths usually equals a second on the track, and I hate 4.10 gears!!!!! I have to shift too damn much!!!!!

[kevint]

Nope, the Mazda3 hatchbacks are a 2.3L and come with an optional 5 speed manual or a 4 speed "sportmatic" which allows you to shift the auto. The freaking thing weigh's over 3100lbs with a driver in it and only has only 160hp PLUS is FWD. They take 9.13 seconds just to get to 60!!! You better have won, and by more than five truck lengths since you apparently run Camaro Z28 quartermile times.

I love these bragging stories. At least they are more accurate than some of the crap put on the old site. I remember one guy claiming to be taking turbo supras light to light. Good ole DannySS (wonder if he's on here now because I don't see anyone using that name) once thought that a race between a 4.3 and some econo compact sedan was a waste of time, thought he might as well be racing a parked car. They raced (not DannySS, but the original poster and his buddy) and the sedan won. The point is that a Dime will for the most part only be able to take out overweight and underpowered econo cars. But that's alright because they are afterall, econo trucks.

I'm actually waiting to see if the MazdaSpeed3 is AWD, because if it is I'm going to buy one without a doubt.


that race was between me and a N/A sonata- i guess it isnt so much a BS story when its not turbo charged, ill find the original post on another website.

[Injected]

danny posts now i seem in the 6 cly an performance , hes knows his stuff

Good to know we haven't lost him. And you're right, he does know his stuff.

[Danny_SS]

YES, Danny_SS is still here :)
Injected seems to remember me a lot from the "nitrous as forced induction" debate a couple of months ago.
It seems like we are the few people in the forum who do not hate imports.

By the way, I attended zoomzoomlive this sunday (you can read more on zoomzoomlive.com) and had a chance to drive the new Miata Mx5 on a road corse. Those little cars are pretty quick and they handle pretty good too. Even the older 1.8 ones are really light and make decent power which translates into a power to weight ratio that is better than stock S-10's.
There are simple turbo kits out there for about $1500 that transform them into darn good little performers for the money.

[s10mafia50]

Nope, the Mazda3 hatchbacks are a 2.3L and come with an optional 5 speed manual or a 4 speed "sportmatic" which allows you to shift the auto. The freaking thing weigh's over 3100lbs with a driver in it and only has only 160hp PLUS is FWD. They take 9.13 seconds just to get to 60!!! You better have won, and by more than five truck lengths since you apparently run Camaro Z28 quartermile times.

I love these bragging stories. At least they are more accurate than some of the crap put on the old site. I remember one guy claiming to be taking turbo supras light to light. Good ole DannySS (wonder if he's on here now because I don't see anyone using that name) once thought that a race between a 4.3 and some econo compact sedan was a waste of time, thought he might as well be racing a parked car. They raced (not DannySS, but the original poster and his buddy) and the sedan won. The point is that a Dime will for the most part only be able to take out overweight and underpowered econo cars. But that's alright because they are afterall, econo trucks.

I'm actually waiting to see if the MazdaSpeed3 is AWD, because if it is I'm going to buy one without a doubt.

I looked into the Mazda 3 on motor trend and they tested an Autostick one that did 8.6 seconds to 60 and 16.4 in the 1/4. They also weigh in at just under 3000lbs, have 160hp(in states other than cali), and the stick version will beat the auto stick by two tenths. So the Mazda 3 should be a 16.2 1/4 performer stock for the 5 sp. I don't htink it is AWD, I am pretty sure it is FWD. What do the vortec s10's run stock anyways, the first time I took mine it was already mildly modded and was running mid 15's. Thanks guys, and I thought i had seen dannyss around.
Andrew
EDIT: Actually, i just looked at another article that said the mazda 3 sprints to 60 in 7.7 with the stick

[Injected]

I know a bit about the MAZDA3's, my girlfriend drives one, though the i-series (2.0L). I also know that they aren't AWD, but if you are a fan of concepts and future releases, then you know that the MazdaSpeed6 is going to be a turbo version of the 2.3 with a 6 speed and AWD. Spotted in Nuremburg doing hotlaps was a MazdaSpeed3 with a turbo and possibly AWD. Imagine a car that light, large four cylinder, turbo AND four wheels spinning. Watch out EVO's!

Good to see you DannySS

[Danny_SS]

Those new Mazdas are going to be quick. Hopefully they wont charge $30K+ for them like those dumb Evo's and STI's. Those cars are cool and quick, but too damn expensive for a 4cyl car with a base price of about 17K. For $30K+ I would rather buy a G35 or a GTO which is just as quick plus its more classy.

[Injected]

The MazdaSpeed6's are going to be quite pricey, but under $28K. Hopefully that means the MazdaSpeed3's will be around $20K. That's a little less than an SRT-4, which will be replaced next year. In case you haven't heard, Dodge will be dropping their 7 year / 70,000 mile warranty. That information came straight from the goat's mouth.

[bonecrushins10]

2005 gto is the bomb diggity

danny didnt you have an encounter with one of your friends audi s or somethin
with a t/c

did u win or lose i cant remember it was a minute ago

[Danny_SS]

Yeah, I raced this summer against my friend's 99 Audi A4 1.8T.
His mods are basically a big HKS BOV.
My truck is a 94SS and has only a edelbrock muffler, a K&nfilter and traction bars.
We stopped at a light He held his revs at 4500 waiting for the green, I held my brakes and gas so my rpm was at 1500. Light turned green and I jumped ahead by a car and a bit. by the end if my 1st gear I was up by 2 cars. in the beginning of my 2nd gear he started to catch up quickly but still at my tailgate, Once I got into 3rd I got up by 2 cars again, and race was over.
I win!
Audi shuts up with tail hidden between legs.