superchargers

[oscars_s10]

i am looking into getting a supercharger for my '98 Sonoma V6. i am interesting in the powerdyne kit. does anyone have any experience with this kit? also, what would everyone else recommend. thanks

[Old Man]

Never heard or seen a YNE kit?????

[oscars_s10]

i apoligize. i meant power d yne. my comp must have not wrote the rest.

[oscars_s10]

my comp is screwed

[oscars_s10]

if anyone could help i would appreciate

[Old Man]

OK!!

Powerdyne- Not a bad entry level kit
Not to bad to install
Uses a FMU for extra fuel
Uses and internal belt to stepup the speed of the impeller which is there biggest drawback. Belt breaks due to heavy downshifting etc , then you have to take it apart to fix it. Alot of "S" people dont like the kit because of god knows really what reason, but its OK.

Wynjammer- Also not a bad entry level kit
NO FMU for fuel, its a lower boost number so it can be programmed to add the fuel which puts the injectors at its max.
Has and external belt drive which is much easier to swap out when it breaks.
Had some bearing problems which were resolved, bad vendor!
Very easy to install and get running.
At its max really unles more parts are bought.

Vortec- OK kit
Uses a FMU for extra fuel
Has the highest output temp of any supercharger since it uses motor oil to lubricate the drive unit.
Internal stepup gears
Between the internal stepup gears and motor oil, bearings are a common low life problem.
Really needs a MSD BSTM since its output temps are high to pull timing out.
Needs to have the oil pan drilled and tapped for the pickup line for the lube system.

ATI- Good luck getting one so we wont go further.

Thats it pretty much in a nutshell!! None are perfect and really one isnt better than the other because were one lacks, other make up for but then lack themselves in other avenues!

[oscars_s10]

well i am rebuilding a 98 v-6 and the truck is an automatic. i am going to port the heads and put forged pistons in it and a supercharger. so i will not have to do anything to the computer if i use a power d yne supercharger?

[1low4wd]

I ran a powerdyne on my truck for a while, it is a good kit and work with your stock computer. If you have a Programmer, it is useless with the powerdyne or any supercharger kit, unless you are changing tire size. I am running a Wynjammer now, with a custom pcmforless tuned computer.. I like it.

[bill 4.3L 5spd]

you will still want to get the computer tuned, or at very least reflashed.

[bill 4.3L 5spd]

also if you wanna save a couple bucks, go to www.gmtruckforum.org and PM supercharged zq8, he's the site owner and has one for sale....

[oscars_s10]

what about between power d yne and vortech? which is better and why?

[Old Man]

Neither!!
As I posted before, each has its own drawback.

Powerdyne has a belt problem, so they say, but some have run better Kevlar belt etc and report no problem.
Vortech has you tapping the pan for oil and motor oil is not the idle lubricant for ball bearings. Plus the fact the discharge air will be 10-30 degrees higher than any other kit at the same pressure.
Really its up to you. I will and can say this, you wont get much more than 25-35K before something within any kit breaks!

[Rob]

To avoid tapping the oil pan for the Vortech superchargers I had the idea of running a separate oilling system for the supercharger, give it it's own oil resivor. Would this be a good idea? Not sure if you would need to run a pump with it too, but if you got a small electric pump, may work. Just a thought.

[bonecrushins10]

ya i think if you want the life out of your supercharger its gotta be clean ,
run systhentic in it , but i dont know bout any pumps that can pump oil .

[Old Man]

You got the idea Rob.
Motor oils carry carbon that is not good for the life of roller bearings.
It also cooks at over 200 degrees turning sludgy.
Has a tendency to foam if there is any leak, which there will be and thats not good for the motor itself let alone the SC bearings.
Pumping from a small cooler and back into the head constant style is a good idea, but even letting it sit and being changed every few thousand, syn oils made for pressure can withstand that!

[Rob]

Ever since I've been thinking about supercharging my truck, I've been thinking about a separate oilling system if I went with the Vortech kit. It's a pretty good and reliable kit, but that's it's biggest draw back with the oil lines and all. Since I work at a metal fab shop, I would love to build my own Procharger kit with an intercooler of course. Don't want to deal with Mach Performance and their BS. Plus since I got my TunerCat OBDII Software, I can tune the hell out of it for the supercharger and may not have to run an FMU.

Not to get off topic, but I just did a tune tonight. Copied the Hypertech 87 Octane tune to use as a baseline. Since I'm running the MSD 6a, I made the fuel mixture a little richer to use the extra spark and it really made a difference from 4000 RPM up. I'm going to adjust it some to see if I can get better lower RPM performance out of it. I also decreased Torque Managment from -15* to -6*. More fun to come with it.

[Old Man]

If you really wanted a Procharger, you can call Procharger and get the head and possibly the bracket to hold it!!! Mach was way high on his rigged kit and I bet you could duplicate the same kit for half the price!


Yeah , isnt having your own tuner fun!!!!!!!! ;)

[Rob]

I never thought about giving Procharger a call about the mounting bracket, that would be one of the hardest parts of the install in my opinion.

Yeah I've just begun to mess around with the tuner, but it seems to be great. Once I get more mods I think it will be better. Plus once I get the tunning part down pretty well, I'd like to tune other people's trucks/cars.

[Dimemaster]

For oiling the Vortech, run synthetic through a dual remote filter base and cooler, then tap into the return line to feed the supercharger. Use a check valve to prevent gravity from draining the system when the engine is off. This will easily double bearing life. The added oil capacity will reduce the amount of contaminants per unit volume and allow 5,000 mile change intervals. Still, add replacing bearings to your 25,000 mile service interval and you'll never have a bearing problem. Also, your intake charge will be cooler since only cooled oil reaches the bearings. Note that engine oil should run at least 180*F to boil off any fuel residue or condensation, so use a thermostat. It wouldn't hurt overcooling the small amount of oil that goes to the bearings if you want to run a second cooler for that.